Great Winter Knight Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Not counting the ones that burn on the Blackwater, did Mel say she burned one of Davos's sons in her fire? She said it to him right before he did his half ass murder attempt. If so did it also happen in the book? I don't remember it happening, but I have slept since reading that part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I believe she was saying that Davos shouldn't despair, all those who died by fire died the purists of death (his son included). The suggestion that his son burning alive was somehow pure... well, we saw what Davos did in response.I do not believe Melisandre ever claims death by fire is the purest death in the novels, but I may well be wrong; and even if she doesn't actually say it, I imagine the character in the novels actually believes it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Octarina Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 @RanI think I remember her criticizing wildfire in the novels as a kind of fake fire, or something? If that's the case, I'm sure she wouldn't say that about Mathos' death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matchesmalone Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I don't think she was saying that she actually burned him.In one of the Season 2 episodes, as she's leaving the room she whispers something into Mathos' ear. Stannis asks her what she said, and she states something about how "fire is the purest death" or something along those lines.So, when she repeats the line about fire, death, etc to Davos in S3E1, the implication is that she prophesied Mathos' death by fire. At least that's what I took from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrogant Bastard Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I don't think she was saying that she actually burned him.In one of the Season 2 episodes, as she's leaving the room she whispers something into Mathos' ear. Stannis asks her what she said, and she states something about how "fire is the purest death" or something along those lines.So, when she repeats the line about fire, death, etc to Davos in S3E1, the implication is that she prophesied Mathos' death by fire. At least that's what I took from it.This. I believe in season 2 episode 2 Mel whispers the "fire is the purest death" to Mathos, who burns up at the black water, meaning to me that she saw his death in her flames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moët Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I don't think she was saying that she actually burned him.In one of the Season 2 episodes, as she's leaving the room she whispers something into Mathos' ear. Stannis asks her what she said, and she states something about how "fire is the purest death" or something along those lines.So, when she repeats the line about fire, death, etc to Davos in S3E1, the implication is that she prophesied Mathos' death by fire. At least that's what I took from it.This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterstood Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Stannis' son was killed by wildfire - so I took it as her purposefully fucking with him by reminding him if that fact when she said "like I told your son - fire is the purest form of death" - and that set him off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin1989 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I believe she was saying that Davos shouldn't despair, all those who died by fire died the purists of death (his son included). The suggestion that his son burning alive was somehow pure... well, we saw what Davos did in response.I do not believe Melisandre ever claims death by fire is the purest death in the novels, but I may well be wrong; and even if she doesn't actually say it, I imagine the character in the novels actually believes it.Wasn't in it. Smart that they did it this way for the show only the Mel from the books wouldn't provoke somebody like this. But this is the TV show and this minor change doesn't bother me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mulled Wino Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I don't think she was saying that she actually burned him.In one of the Season 2 episodes, as she's leaving the room she whispers something into Mathos' ear. Stannis asks her what she said, and she states something about how "fire is the purest death" or something along those lines.So, when she repeats the line about fire, death, etc to Davos in S3E1, the implication is that she prophesied Mathos' death by fire. At least that's what I took from it.The rub is that she's throwing it in Davos' face that his son wouldn't have died if she had been there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nubreed000 Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 book spoiler below is his son actually dead?? i swear that i remember him surviving too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkAndFullOfTurnips Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 book spoiler below is his son actually dead?? i swear that i remember him surviving tooI believe all but one die, from at least the sons that go with him. In the novels he has several sons, not just the one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunningsteve Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 book spoiler below is his son actually dead?? i swear that i remember him surviving tooMathos died in the books, too. However there Davos had 7 sons and 4 (including Mathos) of them died on the Blackwater. Devan was and still is Stannis squire and the 2 youngest are with their mother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nubreed000 Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 ah yes...now I remember. Thanks guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serr Parker Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Edit* didn't get the spoiler code right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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