DarkAndFullOfTurnips Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 It's been one episode and anyone that has read the book can see they've delayed the Reek ruse until now. Theon is going to get fucked up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiola Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I liked the Theon parts, and I think the torture will continue. However, I think the bulk of it will be off-screen. We will definitely hear about him getting his dick flayed or else I'll be disappointed. Not because I want it to happen to Theon, but because it's so terrible and so cruel that it really summarizes what Ramsay did to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny__bravo Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Yeah I agree, as well as being another way to mess with Theon's head its also designed to tie in with what Robb tells Cat about Theon's whereabouts and what transpired at Winterfell. To a show viewer it was Dagmer and his ironborn that hooded and dragged Theon off, if they revelaed that he is being tortured at the Dreadfort and Ramsey and men torched Winterfell it would expose Roose's plot/knowledge of his son's actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Daddy Dave Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 This was a good warmup round. And it will get much, much worse. It has to is they want audiences to ever root for ol' Theon again. I watched it with my wife who has never read the books, and she kept saying, good, Theon deserve everything he gets. I tell her he's beyond fucked. I'm partially going to enjoy watching my wife to see if her opinion changes of him in the next few seasons. As for the actual torture: I think we'll see the first strip of flesh flayed onscreen, then other will happen offscreen once they convey to the viewers what flaying actually involves doing. Most of the skin that gets flayed can be covered up with clothes. I think he'll lose a finger or two, which can be done with green wrap and CGI. I think like Tyrion's nose, Theon won't have any of his teeth removed. At least, I'd be surprised if they did. I'm curious about little Theon though. Will it be alluded to but never confirmed like in the books? Will it be confirmed outright? Or not happen at all? I don't want it to happen, but I must admit the thought that it probably DID is part of what made me decide he'd been punished enough for his sins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ororo727 Jon Snow Fangirl Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 It was a great episode and the torture is just the tip of iceberg for Theon. It's quite obvious to us who his "savior" really is. I'm hoping that we get a small glimpse of a flaying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonDunn Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Is this the most 'jumping the gun' post ever on this site?We have seen ONE episode of him, there is a LOT more to go. he hasn't even actually met the real Ramsay yet.Calm down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonDunn Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Is this the most 'jumping the gun' post ever on this site?We have seen ONE episode of him, there is a LOT more to go. he hasn't even actually met the real Ramsay yet.Calm down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 lol!! tbh I felt like his performance was a lot more subtle and amazing than just screaming/writhing in pain ... you could just feel the wheels turning as he is desperately trying to figure out what he should say to make it stop. I loved how he was cowering in terror when boy/Ramsay walked up and took the hood off. His desperate pleas "don't leave me" were heartbreaking. I'm seriously in love with Alfie's portrayal of Theon.Oh, yeah. Alfie is great. Again, like Gleeson, he should be more featured in the show promo material.But also, if we stick straight to the books, his presence in the show wouldn't be more than a couple of minutes and could be filmed all in one day. They need to extend the whole thing, and they won't show everything in the same first episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost of Winter Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I thought the torture was going to be worse, a little flaying and stuff. I pulled my blanket over my head. Lol. Yeah there's going to be more, much more.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ororo727 Jon Snow Fangirl Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Is this the most 'jumping the gun' post ever on this site?We have seen ONE episode of him, there is a LOT more to go. he hasn't even actually met the real Ramsay yet.Calm down.Actually he has. He just doesn't know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AelinorTarg Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Will they imply that he got castrated? I remember when he has to eat Jeyne out,that he says ''I'm not even a man'' or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Greguh Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Will they imply that he got castrated? I remember when he has to eat Jeyne out,that he says ''I'm not even a man'' or something like that.It's implied pretty heavily in a few portions of the books that he's been castrated. In addition to that quote, at one point he reminisces that he lost his fingers and toes "and that other thing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ServantOnIce Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I just thought the whole Theon scene was really poorly done. There was real horror to it, no suspense. To a non-book viewer i expect it was more confusing than anything else. Really, really disappointed.As for the bloke who 'comes to rescue him', i expect that'll beA ploy from Ramsay to teach Theon who's boss, like we heard about in the books I still think my idea about keeping Theon's identity a mystery, at least in the beginning, would have worked better.Definetely a ploy. After they get the last bit of torture out of Theon, the dude looks over at Lord Snow and he comes up pretending to be someone saved by Theon's Sister. . .how did Theon ever buy that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abaddon Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I do not claim to be an expert on the subject matter (shudder) but I believe a man can still have sex without any testicles. And, "that other thing" if I remember correctly is distinctively a singular term...I'm hoping D&D handle that like the books, actually. Have him imply it strictly via dialogue, from the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Greguh Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 how did Theon ever buy that?I'm gonna go with, he's being fucking tortured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shit_for_Honour Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 It's only the beginning I suspect. I didn't expect to feel sorry for Theon, he's an arse and I never liked him. But I did feel a bit of sympathy for him, he's in for a tough ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AelinorTarg Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I do not claim to be an expert on the subject matter (shudder) but I believe a man can still have sex without any testicles. And, "that other thing" if I remember correctly is distinctively a singular term...I'm hoping D&D handle that like the books, actually. Have him imply it strictly via dialogue, from the book.Yeah,it is said even in the books,that the eunuchs made in Yunkay/Meereen are still capable of erection. I think they will simply suggest it,or show us Theon afterwards with lots of blood on his crotch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiola Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 It's implied pretty heavily in a few portions of the books that he's been castrated. In addition to that quote, at one point he reminisces that he lost his fingers and toes "and that other thing."I thought he had his dick flayed, not that he was castrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic 8 Ball Posted April 8, 2013 Author Share Posted April 8, 2013 I'm not a fan of torture porn, like I said I just think it needs to be sickening, grueling to watch for narrative purposes.Also, to subvert audience desires for vengeance. Make them be glad he's getting hurt, then just drag it out so long and bad that they feel sickened and ashamed for having felt that way. That would be brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 He cant be as horribly disfigured and mutilated as Reek. Reek was skeletal, worse than Christian Bale in the machinist. Allen wont or cant go that far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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