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A lot of you are saying Ramsay isn't the spoiled brat that Joffrey is. On one hand, it's true that Ramsay has had a much, much harder life than Joff and sort of had to make a name for himself through hard work (such as it was).

But are you remembering the hilarious scenes with his disapproving father Roose in Book 5? Ramsay comes across as an immature, whiny and brick-stupid little shit. He's not that far off from Joffrey in those scenes. He almost seems to be channeling Joff when he tells Roose it's better to be feared than loved and that he wants to skin Lady Dustin to make a pair of boots (to which Roose calmly replies that human skin makes inferior leather).

Ramsay is more capable of clever schemes, but at heart he's a bully, a sadist and a brat, no better than Joffrey.

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ETA: Cant' wait for the first official appearance of Ramsay and the tumblr reaction: "Ramsay-chan", fics about his tortured soul and nonsense like that. Oh, the yaoi... the yaoi!

Oh god, that's why I stopped liking the Harry Potter fandom. The idiots who like fanfiction and Draco because of Tom Felton even though he was nothing more than a brat who bit off more than he could chew with the evil work. Actually he's a bit like bookJoffrey in terms of dimension.

I read an HP fanfiction once and it was the dumbest thing I ever heard of. I refuse to look at any Ice&Fire fanfics.

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When Joffrey is being fitted with the new clothes and says, "NO flowers"...did anyone see flowers in that piece of cloth? I backed it up and looked several times. I don't understand what the heck he was bitching about...it wasn't flowers at all that I could tell. Seems like a weird detail (I know), but why not just use a stupid floral pattern?

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A lot of you are saying Ramsay isn't the spoiled brat that Joffrey is. On one hand, it's true that Ramsay has had a much, much harder life than Joff and sort of had to make a name for himself through hard work (such as it was).

But are you remembering the hilarious scenes with his disapproving father Roose in Book 5? Ramsay comes across as an immature, whiny and brick-stupid little shit. He's not that far off from Joffrey in those scenes. He almost seems to be channeling Joff when he tells Roose it's better to be feared than loved and that he wants to skin Lady Dustin to make a pair of boots (to which Roose calmly replies that human skin makes inferior leather).

Ramsay is more capable of clever schemes, but at heart he's a bully, a sadist and a brat, no better than Joffrey.

This is a good point...He definitley has that element, especially when it concerns his last name..But for me at least, it gets trumped by his genuine desire for mutilation and destruction and the lengths he goes to fulfill them.

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Joffrey's spoiled little sod.

Ramsay's a twisted dark freak of a man, who honestly scares me a little. George must have been having a bad day when he came up with him.

he killed his true-born brother just so he would be his father's heir.

He makes Joff look like Paris Hilton.

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Joffrey's spoiled little sod.

Ramsay's a twisted dark freak of a man, who honestly scares me a little. George must have been having a bad day when he came up with him.

he killed his true-born brother just so he would be his father's heir.

He makes Joff look like Paris Hilton.

Yes, but Ramsay is a fearsome monster, while Joffrey is an annoying little shit. Even though Ramsay is much more evil than Joffrey, I think Joffrey's annoyance and "little shittiness" will keep him on top of the list of the most hated characters in the show.

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I think I might be in the minority, but I don't like Ramsey at all. I don't find him any more interesting than the guy from Hostel. The treatment of Theon borders on obscene IMO.

I hope they keep his stuff to a minimum.

I really don't see the appeal.

Joff gets more of a rise out of me. Ramsey is just pure disgust

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Yes, but Ramsay is a fearsome monster, while Joffrey is an annoying little shit. Even though Ramsay is much more evil than Joffrey, I think Joffrey's annoyance and "little shittiness" will keep him on top of the list of the most hated characters in the show.

yeah with Joff it was satisfying to see tyrion slap him. with Ramsey, it's nothing doing. He is just a rabid dog that needs to be put down
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yeah with Joff it was satisfying to see tyrion slap him. with Ramsey, it's nothing doing. He is just a rabid dog that needs to be put down

That's not exactly what I meant. I love having a character like Ramsay. He's the entertaining kind of evil, like the Joker, and I don't want to see him die too soon. Joffrey is the annoying kind of evil, and that IMHO makes him easier to hate than Ramsay, even though Ramsay is a lot worse than him.

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That's not exactly what I meant. I love having a character like Ramsay. He's the entertaining kind of evil, like the Joker, and I don't want to see him die too soon. Joffrey is the annoying kind of evil, and that IMHO makes him easier to hate than Ramsay, even though Ramsay is a lot worse than him.

As a Joker type, I see what you are saying. I admit I burst out laughing at his letter to Jon. But the slasher porn is a bit much for me. Joff is more a classic villain; the one that elicits boos from the crowd. I wanna walk up to him and punch him. I wouldn't get within 500 feet of Ramsey
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All of you kept saying Rheon and I had no idea what you were talking about. When I checked it out and then it hit me. I remember learning that he was cast months ago, totally forgot. He is great in Misfits

Oh yeah and Ramsay. I hate him, but I enjoy him sort of, as others are saying, compared to Joffrey. Joffrey is just..ugh I hate him so much. lol. Ramsay scares the hell out of me too. I remember at first I thought Theon deserved what he got but it just got way too far. The guy is a psycho and I cannot wait to see how he is played in the show.

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