A Winters Summer Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 So, I was concerned that Sam the Slayer would not happen. But after the birth scene I can see where this is going (Sam follows Craster and encounters The Other takng the child). I think that this will tie in nicely wth Gilly and Sam and make more sense for the show (the girl was Gilly right?).Thoughts? Does anyone else think that Coldhands will make an appearance in the next few episodes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naik2902 Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 i want to see coldhand riding great elk. hope they show good CGI . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throng of Mice and Mire Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 (Sam follows Craster and encounters The Other takng the child). I think that this will tie in nicely wth Gilly and Sam and make more sense for the show (the girl was Gilly right?).Thoughts? Does anyone else think that Coldhands will make an appearance in the next few episodes?I don't think thats what will happen. Sam won't have to save the child from Craster. The mutiny will do that for him. He and Gilly (yes, it was her) will then flee together with the baby and later he will encounter the White Walker and become Sam the Slayer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runaway Penguin Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Or Puddles the Other walks in on the mutiny scene. i think it is crucial that Sam will have witness from Watch though - in book it was Grenn - otherwise novody would believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kienn Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 I'm getting the feeling Ghost will save Sam from the Other and be under attack himself when Sam finally gets the courage to fight to save his dead friend's direwolf.This will be on the march home when Sam's fallen behind, not with the baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinwesteros Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 So well played...thought the addition of Craster's derision of Samwell was an inspiration, and thought Sam's expression - in fact his whole playing of that scene - was just great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerMixalot Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Since they havent established Mance is an expectant father, doesnt this cause problems down the road? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhawk137 Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Eh, tbh, the Slayer scene is the kind of think you can feasibly stick in at a lot of points in the story. It's not really all that important where and when it happens, just that it happens sometime in this general vicinity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
episodenone Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Since they havent established Mance is an expectant father, doesnt this cause problems down the road?No. Why would it? Was there some scene where it was totally appropriate for Mance to give Jon a slap on the back and say something about being a proud wildling pappy once and for all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runaway Penguin Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Actually it was kinda important that Sam became the Slayer before mutiny - so that Mormont was seen and heard to take him seriously and so that on the verge of death Mormont stressed to Sam the need to inform about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhawk137 Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Actually it was kinda important that Sam became the Slayer before mutiny - so that Mormont was seen and heard to take him seriously and so that on the verge of death Mormont stressed to Sam the need to inform about it.Eh, I'm not sure the way things are going in the show it's strictly necessary Sam become the Slayer before the mutiny, I think it's more or less set up to go in the same direction plot-wise either way. And I do think in the show the Mormont-Sam relationship is sufficiently developed anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hodor Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 I think sam will become slayer next episode when others come to claim the child, and craster will ask them all to leave..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hodor Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Since they havent established Mance is an expectant father, doesnt this cause problems down the road?maybe when jon goes to murder mance.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crown Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 I actually expected Sam to become Slayer before he met Coldhands, but I like the idea of him saving Gilly's baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mediumjon Umber Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Actually it was kinda important that Sam became the Slayer before mutiny - so that Mormont was seen and heard to take him seriously and so that on the verge of death Mormont stressed to Sam the need to inform about it.Agreed. In the book Sam at least manages to send away the ravens before the Fist is overrun, plus he slays an Other. For a fat fool, that's pretty impressive. Show Sam on the other hand is nothing but a burden to Mormont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLittleDirewolf Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 I'm guessing they are delaying Sam the Slayer in order to make it more of a Neville Longbottom moment. Sam's been shown to be bumbling and inept up until now, and they are really piling on with Rast insulting him and Mormont not having much confidence. I agree that the Slayer has to happen in front of the NW, otherwise what's the point? I couldn't for the life of me remember how Sam gets Gilly and the baby out of Craster's, I had to go look it up. So, if he gets them out during the mutiny, then we are running out of time for the Slayer to happen with the NW as witnesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runaway Penguin Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Agreed. In the book Sam at least manages to send away the ravens before the Fist is overrun, plus he slays an Other. For a fat fool, that's pretty impressive. Show Sam on the other hand is nothing but a burden to Mormont.The book effectively conveys that while he is fearful and "soft", he has sense of duty to override his fears. He is still fat, bumbling fool - but he does his best. In the show he is just a fat stupid coward who will suddenly shine, in the book he gets there gradually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinwesteros Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 I actually expected Sam to become Slayer before he met Coldhands, but I like the idea of him saving Gilly's baby.Ditto. And IIRC in the book, Sam slayed the White Walker before they got back to Crasters. I've got to go back to the book, though, and see just how he did get out with Gilly and the baby. Somehow it seems like there was just so much chaos with Mormont getting killed that he just kind of found her sort of on the fringes of the chaos, as he was, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mteague26 Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 I can't count how many times Sam pisses himself in the books Even after he slays the other, he is still just as cowardly. I just don't understand the love that this fat bastard gets in the books and in the show. I guess it's because he's so pathetic and innocent? The only thing cool about his story arch is coldhands, and they sure as shit better not cut sir badass elk rider out of this series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mulled Wino Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 I can't count how many times Sam pisses himself in the books Even after he slays the other, he is still just as cowardly. I just don't understand the love that this fat bastard gets in the books and in the show. I guess it's because he's so pathetic and innocent? The only thing cool about his story arch is coldhands, and they sure as shit better not cut sir badass elk rider out of this series.Sam is highly overrated IMO and has been quite the burden on everyone who helps him. His cowardice basically killed Aemon. Killing the ww was pretty much luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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