King of Hats Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Balon Swann is gonna make light work of Darkstar...No fuss, he'll just turn up at the end of 'Winds' with Mycella, and someone will ask him where hes been and he'll casually tell them that he took care of that Darkstar character, rescused the Princess, killed a few sand snakes, what's next?(No idea where I got this idea of Balon Swann being such a badass, but I really believe it!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blood of Winter Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Arthur Dayne had brownish colored hair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Arthur Dayne had brownish colored hair How do you know that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blood of the dragoon Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 So we're not doing the purple thing anymore? Fuck it, i still am, even if I'm the last one.Darkstar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat King Robert Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Balon Swann is gonna make light work of Darkstar...No fuss, he'll just turn up at the end of 'Winds' with Mycella, and someone will ask him where hes been and he'll casually tell them that he took care of that Darkstar character, rescused the Princess, killed a few sand snakes, what's next?(No idea where I got this idea of Balon Swann being such a badass, but I really believe it!) Well, he's being described as "....young, brave, courteous and a skilled fighter. He is good with a lance, better with a morningstar and exceptional with a bow." EDIT: He's not as good as Areo Hotah, though. He's a BAMF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Knute Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 I know we were given a really bad first look at Darkstar but as a Dayne, given the history of Arthur and his prowess as a swordsman and being the last to hold the Title SoTM, I hope Darkstar doesn't turn out to be totally lame. One thing I can see as him influencing, is the Lannister relationship with Dorne. It was a great move by Tyrion. However, now it appears Dorne is going to be a bit soured by how Quentyn was roasted by a Dragon, but then you also have a member of one of the more prestigious houses in Dorne maiming a young/helpless princess. These two could 'offset' each other if cooler heads prevail but I think they won't. I'm thinking that Dany will want Dorne especially under advisement from Tyrion as an Ally. Dorne may resist still feeling the pain over the loss of Oberyn and Quentyn, they're probably not going to be in a very good mood. But that still leaves the question, who does Dorne ally with? Aegon initially, I'm almost certain of it. Doran will feel it's a good move because Dany is forever stalling in Essos and Aegon has already started a campaign on Westeros. Given his geographical location it makes sense for Dorne to shore up the southern/southwestern region of Westeros while he makes his way east/north and of course to the IT. So where does Darkstar fit in with all of this? Well at present he's put a serious strain on the alliance of Dorne with the IT and House Lannister and their allies, but Cersei may opt to put aside her personal outrage over it, at least publically. This gives us some nice political intrigue for the interim. So that leaves Darkstar just being a lone nut-job? Could be. I have some doubts. I think Balon is going to get more than he bargained for. But I'm still not getting what Darkstar's actual significance is going to be. Does he have something to do with trying to ascertain Dawn, out of a selfish/greed/ sense of right because he's a Dayne? I think his part is going to be bigger than simply trying to start a war by killing (trying to) Myrcella. I hope so anyway otherwise, any old chump would've served for that purpose alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Scorpion Knight Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 I think hes samwell next "victim" after "pate" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blood of Winter Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 How do you know that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blood of Winter Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Unlike the rest of the more Rhoynish-looking Dornishmen they have pale skin with hair ranging from dark brown to pale blond and that they often have violet eyes.... Yeah, I miss read it. I could if swore it said that somewhere Arthur Dayne was dark of hair, guess I'm mistaken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon of the Dead Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 If Douchestar is working for someone, it has to be Varys/IIIlyrio: by killing Myrcella, DS would've had A ) killed a valuable heir to the IT that Dorne could have used, thus limiting their optionsB ) set the Lannisters against Dorne, thus forcing Dorne to turn to Aegon to protect themselvesC ) damaged the already fragile Lannister-Tyrell-Martell alliance If DS is just a nutjob looking for war, then he should have let Arianne's plan run its course (since she also wanted war) instead of ruining it, so I don't think that's his motivation And I don't think he's working for Doran either because killing Myrcella would have been an incredibly stupid move by Doran's part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dornish Whine Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 ... If DS is just a nutjob looking for war, then he should have let Arianne's plan run its course (since she also wanted war) instead of ruining it, so I don't think that's his motivation And I don't think he's working for Doran either because killing Myrcella would have been an incredibly stupid move by Doran's part But Arriane's plan had already failed. Darkstar was doing what he could to make sure Arriane still got the result she wanted: War. He is not working for Doran, nor anyone but himself most likely. He is not: Rheagar, Arthur Dayne, nor the real Aegon. I think he will turn out to be a BAMF. Too much emphasis is put on his "of the night" line... and the swipe at Myrcella was a desperate last action before fleeing from crossbowmen and mounted soldiers. Myrcella got lucky there. I also think he will wield Dawn (for a little while at least). I don't think Balon can take him in a fair fight. Balon and Hotah though... might prove too much. Fingers crossed that Cersei escapes her trial and brings Darkstar to court as Tommen's new master at arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagon Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 His features suggest a Dorne/Targaryen hybrid. I'm guessing the Dayne's had some Targ blood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALandMammal Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Yeah he sounds like a weapon, Arthur Dayne was said to be killed at the TOJ but no-ones around to confirm it. Howland Reed is the lone survivor (assuming he is actually alive). And, since he played an instrumental part in Arthur Dayne's death (per Ned) he should be able fill in that detail. ...While he finally settles R+L=J. I would give $5 to finally meet this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter King Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 I always wondered why Arianne felt he was important enough, and trustworthy enough to invite into such an important and dangerous mission. Surely that suggests he is loyal to her in some way (or perhaps she is mis-guided, who knows?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riptide Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 And I don't think he's working for Doran either because killing Myrcella would have been an incredibly stupid move by Doran's part The Darkstar works for Doran theory (which I don't believe) has Darkstar maim and not kill Myrcella deliberately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyRobes Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 This might be a stupid question but what exactly is Darkstar's relation to Arthur Dayne? Brothers? I have high hopes for him though, and I agree that he seems to be working independently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blood of Winter Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 This might be a stupid question but what exactly is Darkstar's relation to Arthur Dayne? Brothers? I have high hopes for him though, and I agree that he seems to be working independently.They're not that close in relation. Distant cousins at best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 His features suggest a Dorne/Targaryen hybrid. I'm guessing the Dayne's had some Targ blood? No. According to GRRMartin Daynes aren't related to Targs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spear of Dorne Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Are there any theories as to why he attacked Mycella. I don't remember it ever being stated in the books. Most of Dorne seems desperate for war. It may well be part of no larger conspiracy than simply wanting to start that war as Doran doesn't appear to outsiders to have any interest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sansa of the Many Surnames Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Has anyone considered that Darkstar could be the child of Ned Stark and Ashara Dayne? Feasibly, he could have left the child at High Hermitage because he would pass near it on his way back north to Winterfell. I think this is a huge possibility if you all follow the R+L=J theory. He only went to Starfall after Arthur's death to return the Sword of the Morning to the Daynes of Starfall. Ashara has already given birth to her and Ned's child, and is possibly frail, so she dies from grief after 1) being told that her brother is dead and all the other deaths (she was close to Elia and Rhaegar) 2) being told that she can't be with Ned because he is promised to Catelyn Tully 3) being told that he can't be a father to their child because he promised his dying sister to protect and take care of her son (a Targaryen heir). The honorable Ned would stick to his guns about protecting his sister's child, and possibly wouldn't know about his child with Ashara until arriving in Starfall. The honorable Ned couldn't take TWO bastards home (I mean we saw how Catelyn was about one), and in sequential order, he promised Lyanna first. So after Ashara's death, he leaves the child with her family in High Hermitage. Also, Darkstar is suspiciously similar to Stark, and the dark streak in his hair could be from his Stark lineage. Also, people could say that age is an issue, but I don't recall his age being explicitly mentioned in the books. However, I do know that Arianne considered him a peer, and we know that she's 22. He could easily be around Robb's age (Hell, people in Westeros seem to be older than they truly are). I know this is reaching. It just randomly came to me. Edit: "Darkstar" = GRRM telling us "Dayne-Stark" I also don't think that Darkstar would be aware of his true lineage, but I'm not sure why it would be kept from him. This is so crackpot lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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