Joyful Union Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 The question should be whether D&D's line is as good as 'are you so craven?' which I don't see anyone arguing. Instead of sexism etc. I thought they were just trying to make Brienne look 'hard' or 'badass' in her back-and-forth with Jaime, and misjudged it.Actually, she did call him a coward , they just avoided using craven because it would likely confuse many people.Also, are you implying Brienne isn't badass??? :fencing: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonstoned Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Actually, she did call him a coward, they just avoided using craven because it would likely confuse many people.Also, are you implying Brienne isn't badass??? :fencing:Hahah, she is cool and badass but in an understated way! The showrunners are getting her backwards and making her badass by having her remorselessly kill people in combat, absolutely own Jaime and insult him all the time.That's what I thought the 'coward' comment was, more of an insult than her trying to help. It's open to interpretation but the tone was very harsh (we don't know how she said 'craven' in the books but to me it comes across as desperate and imploring and she whispers it). It sounded just part of the 'bloody woman' insult she next came out with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmholt Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 It's not impossible that one whore could read, nor is it odd that Varys didn't see the two beds on the bill of lading. He's not Sherlock Holmes, he's a schemer.The odd thing to me was that Ros saw 2 beds and she deduced it was a plot to whisk away Sansa. Makes me think this is a LF scheme.Much of Varys' knowledge comes from others. Ros seems to be a special kind of little bird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmholt Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 BTW that Sorcerer scene just freaked me out! I loved it! It wasnt out of character for the story itself nor for Varys. MHO. I was like WTF is Varys doing with that big crate - I didnt recall any big crates in his story line. And he leads such an austere life - what would he need a whole crate full of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxspecific Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 This episode was masterful and the best dialogue of all was Theon's. So moving. Anyhow, it had those "Wow' moments that season 1 had every episode and that season 2 sometimes lacked. Good stuff. Very good episode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmholt Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 I cant help it Missandei is just Not Right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmholt Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Same here. I thought the Slayer scene happened before Craster's Keep?I think it has to happen (Sam slaying the Other) I trust it will be satisfactorily presented. I had no complaints with the way the wights marched on the Fist even though it was totally not by the book. And Sam could not have sent off the ravens given his situation in that last scene. Otherwise we would all be asking how the heck he beat the wights back to the Fist. It was Mormont who sent him out to shovel sh*t to begin with so apparently that wasnt his ONLY job. Mormont is being a little harsh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmholt Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 (edited) Brienne thinks of women the way Arya thinks of "stupid girls" BTW her speech was magnificent - about Jaime whining about the loss of his hand as if he were the only person to ever lose his or her purpose in life. I kept expecting her to go all Dr Phil and tell him to rub some dirt on it. Edited April 24, 2013 by rmholt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan1028 Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 I loved this episode. My hubby hasn't read the books and he is in love w/ Dany.... AND Cersei. I myself am not a Dany fan but that was a great moment for her in the books and the show was awesome.. A dragon is no slave. Theon... sob.. that arrogant little shit, I actually cried when he said that about Ned. Hubby thinks he deserves it.. poor Jaime, Brienne was trying to get him to man up. Nothing sexist about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan1028 Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 oh, I like Locke... kind of chuckled when I read about the Bloody Mummers... that change didn't bother me much. Tywin telling Cersei what's up was great. Can't wait for his scene w/ Joff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMJ Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 I cant help it Missandei is just Not Right.It doesn't help that Missandei in the books is like 10 years younger than on the show. The Dany/Mis interactions are very different as a result. The exchange in E03 about "we are mot men" wouldn't work as well, for instance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dove Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 (edited) If they keep in that gratuitous Dany + Irri scene except with her it's going to be all kinds of awkward. On one hand she's absolutely gorgeous, on the other... aging up a character primarily to give her sex scenes? A little odd. Edited April 24, 2013 by chareth cutestory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverx2 Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 they aged up a bunch of characters primarily for the sex scenes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daske Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 I think it's likely there will be a Walker skirmish either at Crasters or between there and the Wall. There's time for Sam to do his thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmholt Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 It doesn't help that Missandei in the books is like 10 years younger than on the show. The Dany/Mis interactions are very different as a result. The exchange in E03 about "we are mot men" wouldn't work as well, for instance.Yes and given character aging we might have a Bran situation between seasons. Still glad they covered her up in this episode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonblood Stormborn Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 A new scene with Jaime and Locke?who's Locke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonblood Stormborn Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 I cant help it Missandei is just Not Right.That's because She's supposed to be 11 yrs old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonblood Stormborn Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Ros telling VArys about the feather beds that Little finger has for his travels is bothering me because I suspect there's going to be some big story changes in that arc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Icefyre Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Ros telling VArys about the feather beds that Little finger has for his travels is bothering me because I suspect there's going to be some big story changes in that arc.I think she might actually be playing Varys and that's how Littlefinger will find out and tell the Lannisters about the Tyrell's plans for Sansa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonblood Stormborn Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 I just watched the episode again and I got goose bumps and emotional again seeing the Dracarys scene. Her determination and confidence and power for justice chokes me up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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