Conchobar Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Definitel best episode of the season. I gave it a 9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hound Dog Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 But I don't think that was enough, because the Lord's Kiss scene in the cave felt out-of -the-blue. I would be interested in what non readers thought of that scene and if they thought that the characters loved each other.My boyfriend never read the books and he rolled his eyes at that scene. After the episodes, I always tell him how the show did or didn't deviate from the books, and this time I said there was one thing that really bothered me, but before I could say what he said, "The Jon scene in the cave?" I'd meant to say the stuff with Loras. So yeah, out-of-the-blue for sure, at least on my end of things. I'm not so pleased with how they're handling Jon in the show (I know I'm not the only one who feels this way). On another note, my boyfriend thinks of Jon Snow as being rather useless and insignificant, and I always gasp and say that in the books he's a great character, and quite important! So it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isildur's Mane Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 My boyfriend never read the books and he rolled his eyes at that scene. After the episodes, I always tell him how the show did or didn't deviate from the books, and this time I said there was one thing that really bothered me, but before I could say what he said, "The Jon scene in the cave?" I'd meant to say the stuff with Loras.So yeah, out-of-the-blue for sure, at least on my end of things. I'm not so pleased with how they're handling Jon in the show (I know I'm not the only one who feels this way). On another note, my boyfriend thinks of Jon Snow as being rather useless and insignificant, and I always gasp and say that in the books he's a great character, and quite important! So it goes.I'm waitng for my non-book-reader friend to watch the episode so I hear what she thinks - but I think it will be the same as your boyfriend.I was just thinking about that scene just before and, for me personally, it feels like Jon and Ygritte met days ago - a week max - and so that's why the scene feels so out-of-the-blue and rushed. Also, I don't find it believable that they are in love. It feels like a fling (maybe that's what the show writer's are going for? It'd be weird if they were). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RottenAppleFossoway Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Finally got to watch the episode and gave it another 10. Every scene was great IMO. Selyse is fanatical and creepy. Shireen is sad and sweet. Stannis has been humanized finally.The Lannister scene was excellent as usual. Roose Bolton is becoming awesome; really digging McElhatton's portrayal.The bath scene was perfect. NCJ and Christie continue to own as a duo.Robb's scenes were good too. I don't have any issues with Talisa like so many others do. Jon and Ygritte was also excellent.Emille Clark continues to own Dany this season. Beric, Thoros, Arya and the Hound are simply magnificent.Perfect episode. Well done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hound Dog Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 I was just thinking about that scene just before and, for me personally, it feels like Jon and Ygritte met days ago - a week max - and so that's why the scene feels so out-of-the-blue and rushed. Also, I don't find it believable that they are in love. It feels like a fling (maybe that's what the show writer's are going for? It'd be weird if they were).I get this entirely. Too bad, because when Ygritte gets to Castle Black what happens is going to feel pretty forced, much like most of Jon's scenes. She's pretty sassy, but Jon is just so bluuuugh. Not very likable in the show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isildur's Mane Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 I get this entirely. Too bad, because when Ygritte gets to Castle Black what happens is going to feel pretty forced, much like most of Jon's scenes. She's pretty sassy, but Jon is just so bluuuugh. Not very likable in the show.Yes... I know exactly what you mean. It's a pity, Jon is my favourite character Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafalda Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Wtf @ Ser Davos not being able to read but Ros can.But GREAT episode overall. Gave it a nice 8! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryagainlater Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Fantastic episode. Loved most of the scenes although I'm not really feeling Jon's storyline this season. Beric vs Hound, Jaime's "scream loudly" line, bath scene, Tywin taking charge of his kids, and a Frey name drop FINALLY. Rated it a 9. Next week looks intense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RottenAppleFossoway Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Oh there was one big disappointment forme though: No Patchface=suckageI can live without Moonboy and Butterbumps, but the lack of Patches bothers me a lot . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoo Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 I gave it a 10, great writing, great acting, pertinent storylines, loved it all except:- Stannis storyline, I don't get it, why do we have to see this storyline?- Daenerys walking around Esos with 10000 people, all pretty, wandering, but where are the provisions? Lannister's are losing their butt on supplying war time army. Daenery's, no problem. SMH.- Tywin not having a clue that Loras is not the marrying kind. (I guess this hints that Tywin does not know all.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywin's bastard Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Wtf @ Ser Davos not being able to read but Ros can.But GREAT episode overall. Gave it a nice 8!If I knew that one of two commoners could read, where one was a smuggler and the other a luxury prostitute catering to the highest lords in the area, I'd probably put my money on the latter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Killer Snark Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 (edited) Seems we're mostly in agreement here. I voted 9, of course, like most folks. Not quite perfect, but the best 3rd season episode so far. Who in God's name were the four people who gave it 4 or below, though? :o Two people gave it 1. Edited April 30, 2013 by The Killer Snark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinwesteros Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Lost the post! And no more time. :bang: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Redeemed Hound Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Finally got to watch the episode and gave it another 10.Every scene was great IMO.Selyse is fanatical and creepy. Shireen is sad and sweet. Stannis has been humanized finally.The Lannister scene was excellent as usual.Roose Bolton is becoming awesome; really digging McElhatton's portrayal.The bath scene was perfect. NCJ and Christie continue to own as a duo.Robb's scenes were good too. I don't have any issues with Talisa like so many others do.Jon and Ygritte was also excellent.Emille Clark continues to own Dany this season.Beric, Thoros, Arya and the Hound are simply magnificent.Perfect episode. Well done!I agree with everything. The one thing about Talisa is that I just don't understand why they didn't just make her Jeyne Westerling? What would have been the big deal? I guess we will find out? I know people think Talisa is a spy or one of the sand snakes but if not, why not keep Jeyne Westerling as a character? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'll pay the iron price Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 I gave it a 9.I enjoyed it, liked the BWB scenes, Jon and Ygritte getting frisky, Tywin laying down the law to Cersei/Tyrion. Things are starting to fall apart in camp Stark but the Jaime/Brienne bath scene blew me away. Jaime confessing something he's carried on his shoulders for 17 years...........breathtaking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyful Union Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 I agree with everything. The one thing about Talisa is that I just don't understand why they didn't just make her Jeyne Westerling? What would have been the big deal? I guess we will find out? I know people think Talisa is a spy or one of the sand snakes but if not, why not keep Jeyne Westerling as a character?They wanted to avoid casting the rest of the Westerlings. Also, Jeyne is dull as dishwater. Which is not to say the replacement is much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadiva Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 (edited) Amazing ep. You could really feel the kiss/fire theme. Like others I wish Jaime was a little more clear with his delivery of the important lines though.Totally agree, brilliant episode again, loved the use of fire as the theme through all the cut scenes, the fight with The Hound and Beric was brilliantly done too, especially Sandor's fear of the fire.Loved the scene with Gendry and Arya and also the one with Arya, Thoros and Beric, giving a bit more background and depth to the extent that the Brotherhood has been working behind the scenes.Jaime and Brienne's scenes were brilliantly played too, loved his line where he says his name is Jaime, simple but really effective and the Dragonstone story line was done well too, good to see they've stuck with Shireen's greyscale and great to see Davos back on screen.Absolutely cracking ending with Tywin, Cersei and Tyrion and a fairly complex book plot (the Tyrell's plotting and the Wilas (now Loras) wedding suggestion for Cersei) got much simplified for the TV version which I think worked really well.Was interesting to see they've gone to Yunkai (on the title map anyways) and not missed it out and headed straight to Mereen also loved the scenes with Grey Worm.The scenes beyond the Wall were the weakest for me but then I'm not a Jon Snow fan but they were well done in terms of advancing the plot along for the assault by the Wildlings and I liked the way they reintroduced Walder Frey in the scenes with Robb at Riverrun.I gave it an 8 (but it was more of an 8.5 for me). Edited April 30, 2013 by Cadiva Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegeta_Greyjoy Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Been rewatching the 1st season and maybe it's Sean Bean's greatness but I'd consider all 10 episodes to be 10/10. King Robert is awesome as well.So considering how much better I like season 1 I'm going to have to cap each ep of season 3 at 8/10 unless it really knocks my socks off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravi Seaworth Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Been rewatching the 1st season and maybe it's Sean Bean's greatness but I'd consider all 10 episodes to be 10/10. King Robert is awesome as well.So considering how much better I like season 1 I'm going to have to cap each ep of season 3 at 8/10 unless it really knocks my socks off.I agree, but that's also because the source material is better, in my opinion. It happened with a lot of other stories, such as, LOTR, where clearly the fellowship was the best for me. A Storm of Swords is a better book in terms of wow events, but it lacks the cohesion of Game of Thrones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swan Targ Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 I give it a 8The sword fighting was splendid.really liked Robb's scenes and Karstark execution too.Jaime's confession was great.Charles Dance owning the scene as usual.Jon and Ygritte was alright. But I'm not really feeling their relationship like in the book.I only have a problem with Barristan and Jorah scene, being all BFFs and Barristan not knowing that Jorah was an informer to Varys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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