Offical Court of Law v 13 Robert Baratheon

[JLE]

(1)a. NOT GUILTY on grounds of self-defence. Robert was innocent of any crime, yet Aerys - after having a dozen others put to death without fair trial - demanded his head, and that of Eddard Stark as well. A king who drives his subjects into rebellion has lost the right to rule.

(1)b. NOT GUILTY. Under the conditions of a declared rebellion, the laws of war apply. Two armed forces met under banner of war, each knowing and accepting that battle would be the result of their meeting: it was a fair fight under any law of war, no atrocities against non-combatant civilians were committed by either side, and Robert was the victor.

(2) Kings have to make hard decisions some times. It was not yet certain that Daenerys would attempt to lead the Dothraki in an invasion of Westeros at all - and indeed they would have had mighty problems crossing the sea: yet, there was always the danger of the possibility. Her subsequent deeds in Astapor and Meereen only go to show how dangerous she might have been in coming to Westeros: yet of course he could not know this. On the other hand, it was a known thing that Viserys - Daenerys's elder brother - wanted the throne, and considered himself the rightful heir of Aerys: and it was clear that marrying Daenerys to the Dothraki was his attempt to win himself an army. Still, Eddard Stark advised Robert against it. And Robert himself thought better of it later, although when it was too late to change the decision. We shall take his own judgement as read. GUILTY, but since it was done with the idea of the stability of the kingdom in mind, a lesser sentence. I would recommend a fine, with compensation be paid to Daenerys Targaryen: since the Crown finances are in a somewhat parlous state, I would recommend a gift of land instead: restore Dragonstone Castle and its supporting lands to the Targaryen family. This was, after all, the piece of land that the Targaryens had an unarguable right to, since it was theirs even before Aegon the Conqueror's conquests. Let Daenerys style herself "Lady Targaryen of Dragonstone".

(3) a. Guilty of assault. No real question. Whether there is a charge of marital rape while drunk to be made, who knows? But he is certainly guilty of assault even while sober. JAIL SENTENCE, with the Kingdom to be run by the Hand in his absence.

(3) b. Guilty / jail sentence as above. While a man has the right to discipline his son - and Joffrey certainly deserved it - beating him unconscious is considerably overstepping the mark.

(4) a. Robert knew, the city knew, the whole kingdom knew that terrible deeds had been done in the murder of the Targaryen children. But the decision must be weighed, again, against the thought that the war might continue if he brought Tywin Lannister to trial for ordering it - after all, Tywin had more men in the city than Robert did, and his army were fresh from having sat out the war, rather than exhausted from a long march and a hard-fought victory. A king has the right to offer amnesty for war crimes in the hope of future peace: but it should clearly have been couched in terms of an amnesty for officially-declared crimes, mercy shown to a person who stands convicted and guilty: not in the terms of never declaring them guilty (or not-guilty) in the first place. At the very least, Clegane and Lorch could have been convicted and possibly hanged for murder, even if Tywin Lannister were pardoned. This is, however, a matter of incompetence rather than a matter of law: nobody can call Robert complicit in either the crime or in a pretence that it was never committed. It is noticeable that there were no public Dornish representations to Robert while he was alive, demanding justice, even for Elia. Therefore, and VERY reluctantly, not guilty because he genuinely believed this to be the least-bad decision for the nation.

(4) b. NOT GUILTY. Robert did not know, being deceived by his wife and several members of the Small Council. If he had found out about this while he was alive, it would have been his duty to punish those responsible, and I am in no doubt that he would have done so.

(4) c. NOT GUILTY. This is what delegation is for: he ordered the finances to be run by members of the Small Council, and it is they, not he, who should be punished for it. The guilty party is Petyr "Littlefinger" Baelish: it was his business to tell his master that the treasury simply would not stand the expense of Robert's tastes. Although in fact it is far from clear that it *is* Robert's tastes that have bankrupted the Kingdom: while he is known to be more spendthrift than Aerys - who himself was hardly a miser, having staged several tournaments himself including the great one of Harrenhall - Crown incomes have increased greatly. One can only wonder where Peter "Baelish" Littlefinger is spending the money: I think Robert's supposed excesses are little more than a convenient excuse devised by Baelish to cover up *his* embezzling huge sums. The trouble is that Baelish is the only one who understands his own calculations, so it is difficult for Robert to prove him guilty enough to dismiss Baelish from his post, especially with Baelish's counter-claim of Robert's extravagance being sufficiently believable to convince Robert or the rest of the court of its truth.

(5) NOT GUILTY. At least, guilty of being a drunken, fat fool and an adulterer, but these are not things that the courts should necessarily concern themselves with, except inasmuch as it would stand as grounds for divorce should Cersei demand it. Cersei herself is sleeping outside of her marriage, which in turn would give *Robert* grounds for divorce if he knew about it.

[Ser Cookie Monster]

I urge you my dear justice to read my opinion, Aerys acted first and therefore is at fault! Also, Targaryens may not answer to gods or men, but the rule of law is absolute, even for Targaryens. I'd go as far as to say that the rule of law must be observed more when making rulings regarding Targaryens, given their history of mental illness.

Fine, dissmisal because of self-defense. But even though, he disobeyed and betrayed his King.

I do not question your ruling here, but Daenerys Targaryen lost the right to the Seven Kingdoms to Robert through right of conquest, and you should consider this as a factor if you're giving Robert a harsher sentence for acting against a queen than you would if she were a commoner.

Queen. princess, exiled, or commoner makes no matter. She is innocent of any crimes comitted by her family. She was also just a girl of 13 at the time. Robert attempted the murdered of two innocent lives, hers and her unborn child. He deserves prison sentence.

Again I beg of you to reconsider. Marriage to Cersei cannot be considered a reward, as it happens she was the only woman of a suitable age that would tie one of the kingdoms to Roberts throne, Lyanna being dead, Catelyn and Lysa being married recently before.

I never said Cersei was a reward. I wasn't talking about her either. I apologize for not making myself clear. The members of the royal family at that time - Elia, Aegon, Rhaenys - were terrible murdered. Robert didn't kill them himself, but didn't do anythig about it either. He just turned away and closed his eyes. The murdered was never punished for committing such awful crimes, he didn't even offer an apology to Dorne or the Martells. On the other hand, Robert even rewarded Tywin, who had given the order, by naming him Warden of the West again.

As for the later charges, incompetence is not a crime. Robert should be punished for indifference towards administration, but I find yours too harsh.

Robert is an outstanding warrior, but clearly was not made to be king. Robert did not inherit the Throne, he conquered it, he wasn't prepared to become a King. He was a terrible king. The title of King should be taken away from him and given to a more capable ruler.

But if it is a crime in eyes of gods, shouldn't it be left to gods to deliver the punishment? We are not here to favor one religion over another, we are here to determine if any actual laws were broken.

Ok, I should re-word my stament. He dishonored his Queen and Lady wife. He is guilty. Community service and monetary fine to the Queen.

[DogLover]

1.1: Not guilty. Considering Aerys II's atrocities, it was within Robert's right to rebel.

1.2: Not guilty. Rhaegar was killed in battle.

2: Guilty. The court specifically stated assassination is not to be condoned during Lady Olenna's trial. Sentence: The Wall.

3.1: Guilty. Sentence: the Wall.

3.2: Guilty. Sentence: one year in family counseling and child rearing classes.

4.1: Guilty. Sentence: issue a public apology and pay a monetary fine to House Martell before taking the black.

4.2: Guilty. Sentence: stripped of land and titles.

4.3: Guilty. Sentence: stripped of land and titles.

5. Not guilty. (Guilty of being a terrible husband, but not against the law.)

[Pod The Impaler]

The Defendant, King Robert Baratheon, First of His Name, is charged with the following offences:-

1. Treason. Two Counts.

1.1 The Defendant is charged with having waged war against his lawful sovereign, Aerys II Targaryen, in violation of his oath of fealty.

1.2 The Defendant is charged with having slain the heir to the Iron Throne, Prince Rhaegar Targaryen of Dragonstone, in violation of his oath of fealty.

Defendant pleads "No Contest". The actions are not disputed, only the validity of the charges.

The court rules the CHARGES DISMISSED, on the following grounds:

A1 - The primary grounds for dismissal is related to the fact that a court of law cannot decide an issue that is decided by force of arms. The administration of justice is part of the sovereign power of the realm, and the legitimacy of the court is tied to the sovereignty of the monarch. Power of the crown is based on force of arms, not force of law. In other words, the defendant was committing treason by waging war upon the Crown (as held by House Targaryen), but the fact that he triumphed in that war and usurped the throne by force of arms means he is now the Crown (as held by House Baratheon) and all charges against him in this regard are null and void. He cannot be held as traitor to a now non-existent regime.

The fact that the lords of the realm acknowledged him as king also confers a sort of popular legitimacy. As Lord Varys and others have theorized, power resides where people believe it resides. They called the defendant their king, therefore he can rule them legitimately.

A2 - The only grounds one can dispute this issue of who is "rightful" king is either to claim a continuation of the old regime (as Viserys and Daenerys Targaryen do), and in turn continue the dispute by force of arms. By doing so, of course, they and their allies would be considered traitors or foreign enemies to the new regime. Or some new claimant of neither Targaryen nor Baratheon lineage usurps the throne, and the cycle is reset anew.

B - The religious traditions of Westeros include trial by combat, based on the belief that triumph in battle is indicative of guilt or innocence or the righteousness of one's cause. If the defendant's successful war of usurpation and individual fight to the death versus crown prince Rhaegar Targaryen is taken as a trial by combat, then the righteousness of his cause is proved in the spiritual sense.

C1 - There is an element of self-defense attached to the defendant's actions. In seeking mortal confrontation with crown prince Rhaegar over the matter of Lyanna Stark, he was within his rights. His lawful betrothal to her was ruined by the act of her abduction and possible rape; he had the right to demand vengeance or at least personal duel. As well, as her betrothed, he did have some responsibility to uphold her rights and defend her. The same goes for Lyanna Stark's father and brothers.

C2 - The defendant had a reasonable belief he would be sadistically murdered by king Aerys II, had he submitted to that king's summons. As well, Lyanna Stark would have continued to be in peril, as he saw it.

C3 - While the power of a king (or king's heir) are in a de jure sense without legal limit, there is a de facto practical limit to the legitimacy of the crown's power to act: There is a reasonable expectation that the crown acts for the greater good, or at least does not commit acts which threaten the entire realm. If an act, however technically lawful, is so beyond the pale that it causes a rebellion, this acts as a sort of self-correcting mechanism that limits the powers of the crown. To the extent that the actions of prince Rhaegar and King Aerys II Targaryen created the rebellion which destroyed their sovereignty, they acted beyond its limits. Had events gone otherwise, and they were victorious, their actions (however unjust) would be legally legitimized.

Essentially, the ruling is that the king that is cannot be judged by the court as a traitor to the king that was. The Targaryen's legal sovereignty died when Robert of House Baratheon broke their armies, slew their heir, and all but destroyed their house.

2. Attempted Murder. One Count.

The Defendant is charged with having attempted to procure the assassination of Princess Daenerys Targaryen and her unborn child, through the agency of a seller of poisoned wine.

CHARGE DISMISSED. Though the actions are regrettable, assassination is considered an accepted tool of statecraft when dealing with foes outside the realm. Within the realm of Westeros, a monarch can lawfully and summarily order the death of someone who is a threat to the crown. The court acknowledges that - as per charge #1 - Daenerys and Viserys Targaryen represented an ongoing threat against the crown's sovereignty, having never acknowledged its legitimacy. However, if the ruler with sovereignty over the scene of the act (at Vaes Dothrak, Khal Drogo) wishes to consider this attempted assassination either a crime or an act of war, they are free to do so.

3. Assault Occasioning Actual Bodily Harm. Two counts

3.1 The Defendant is charged with having repeatedly assaulted his Queen, Cersei of House Lannister.

3.2 The Defendant is charged with having assaulted his son, Prince Joffrey, by beating him unconscious.

CRIMINAL CHARGES DISMISSED on technical grounds, MATTER REFERRED TO FAMILY COURT.

Westerosi law does not provide any clear case of jurisdiction here. There is scarcely any case law on the subject of what constitutes acceptable behavior within a family and what constitutes a crime.

The above actions are not covered under ordinary law, and in any case the King is not an ordinary person. As the defendant himself has admitted, the actions were not "kingly" in discipline or dignity, but the law does not cover actions of this sort. Even if use of violence against one's spouse or child is morally abhorrent, it is not considered assault by current Westerosi law, seemingly unless the result is the victim being permanently maimed or killed. Even if such an attack upon a queen or prince was considered "striking one of blood royal" normally, the exception is the monarch himself. To paraphrase Ser Raymun Darry in a similar case related to the conduct of the previous king, such persons are protected, but not from him [the monarch].

There does exist some limited protection for spouses and children, namely from the bride's family, where cases of violence or mistreatment exist. As a matter of retaliation for mistreatment, there is some recourse to have the offender brought to justice. The court cites the case of R. vs. Snow in the matter of the Hornwood marriage. In that case, the defendant, Ramsay Snow, reputedly forcibly married Lady Hornwood, then abused and imprisoned her to the point where she chewed off her own finger. The case showed that there is normally some recourse available to the families of the victim, to have an offender brought to justice by a higher authority. However, this brings the discussion back to the issue that with regard to a King's offenses, there is no higher authority.

Given the above, the court would like to give additional commentary on the specific charges.

With regard to 3.1, the Queen and King clearly had a sort of toxic marriage, where each did harm to the other, both subtle and unsubtle. He assaults her, and breaks his vows with other woman, fathering numerous bastards of royal blood. She undermines him politically, and cuckolds him - committing treason and subjecting the realm to the false claims of sovereignty by those abominations borne of her incest.

With regard to 3.2, there is also some element where the defendant was seeking to correct the aberrant behaviour of his child. There is some testimony that the victim disemboweled an animal for his own sadistic enjoyment, and may have been abusing his younger brother in some way (possibly sexually). While the defendant's choice of corporal punishment is both unwise and excessive, there is nothing in current Westerosi law that prohibits it, so long as the victim is not maimed or slain.

Only one other avenue exists at this point for a just resolution of this issue. As a result, the court will issue a judgment and recommendation during the sentencing phase.

4. Misconduct in Public Office. Three Counts.

4.1 The Defendant is charged with having failed to investigate or punish the murder of Princess Elia of Dorne, and her children, Prince Aegon and Princess Rhaenys.

CHARGE DISMISSED on technical grounds.

As monarch, the defendant openly acknowledged but pardoned all perpetrators of their crimes during the Sack Of King's landing. Did the king have the right to do this? It would seem so.

The court may charge and find guilty those who commit crimes which have gone unpunished, but crimes which have already received legal resolution are off limits. Once again, the king is not a mere person, but sovereign.

If Dorne wished justice on the matter, they had other means to seek it, as details in the ruling in section 1.

In as much as the gods are concerned: Gregor Clegane duelled Oberyn Martell, and died screaming in agony as a result. Amory Lorch was devoured by a bear. Tywin Lannister was killed by his own son. The results speak for themselves.

4.2 The Defendant is charged with having permitted the sale of public offices by the late Janos Slynt, formerly commander of the Gold Cloaks, styling himself Lord of Harrenhall.

GUILTY of violating due process.

The defendant failed to follow due process, leading to the misuse of a public office by an underling. Due process would be as follows: the positions sought were public, and thus the purview of the crown; they were not private positions in the personal retinue of Janos Slynt. Though legally the crown could choose to charge money for admittance into public office, any such payment made for the positions given was to be given solely to the crown. If the crown sought to reward Janos Slynt with bonus money over and above his official earnings, that can be granted afterwards, but by his diverting of crown revenues directly into his own pocket, a crime was committed: either the crime of taking kickbacks or the crime of stealing crown money.

The court also recommends charges be laid against Janos Slynt.

4.3 The Defendant is charged with neglecting matters of State to the extent that the Iron Throne is in debt by six million dragons.

CHARGE DISMISSED.

With respect to the court's power, the matters of negligent use of crown resources can be laid on the doorstep of the Master of Coin and Hand Of The King. However it cannot go higher than this, as ultimate executive decision-making power lies with the king. If the two officials responsible failed in their duties to the king, they can be charged, but if they were directed to their actions by the king, or their judgments overruled by the king, there is simply nothing more which can be done.

Poor decision-making and bad governance may cause all sorts of negative outcomes, but it is not a crime so long as the law is followed.

5. Fornication (at the insistence of the High Septon). One Count.

The Defendant is charged with having fornicated with numerous women, in violation of his solemn and sacred marriage vows.

CRIMINAL CHARGES DISMISSED - MATTER REFERRED TO FAMILY COURT

The Faith cannot, by tradition, charge any monarch with this. Kings may bed whomever they choose, that is the law. The ruling also shall cover the fact that the Queen herself was guilty of fornication and incest before her marriage, and afterwards adding adultery and treason. The court recognizes the breakdown in the royal marriage, and thuis refers the matter to family court.

CRIMINAL CHARGE SUMMARY:

All counts were dismissed except charge 4.2, where the defendant was found guilty of violating due process.

As a result of being found GUILTY of charge 4.2 instance, the court admonishes the defendant, King Robert of House Baratheon, and sentences him to one month of community service: namely, of having to personally hear adjudicate legal cases brought before him by the gold cloaks, without deferring any matter to the commander of the Gold Cloaks, or to any member of the Small Council. This includes any complaints from citizens about the conduct of the Gold Cloaks themselves, for which citizens may speak freely without fear of retaliation. The King must listen, the King must decide. And he must be sober while doing it.

The court feels the defendant may gain a better understanding of the levels of injustice within King's Landing, and how best to deal with the unhappiness of his citizens. After all, the king and realm are one.

MATTERS REFERRED TO FAMILY COURT:

The case here is one of Cersei Baratheon, nee Lannister versus King Robert of House Baratheon, and secondarily, of conduct by Robert Baratheon towards the minor child Joffrey, born of Cersei Lannister.

An overview of Cersei's behaviour with regard to Robert shows that she comitted fornication and incest prior to her marriage, and continued this conduct afterwards, turning these acts into adultery and treason. Her children, Joffrey, Myrcella, and Tommen, are born of incest between herself and her brother Jaime Lannister. This fact has been legally attested to by Jon Arryn, Eddard Stark, and Stannis Baratheon, as well as a surprise witness, Tyrion of House Lannister. As a result of these acts, it is clear enough that she never took her marriage vows seriously. During the marriage, she deceived, cuckolded and undermined her husband. As he was a king, these acts and their results are a matter of state. She raised her eldest child Joffrey in an atmosphere of underlying deceit and even hatred, and deceived her children as well about their own parentage, for the sake of their gaining power and legitimacy to better benefit her.

An overview of Robert Baratheon's behavior with regard to his wife, Cersei Lannister, shows that prior to his marriage, he fornicated outside the vows of marriage. This continued after his marriage as well, and he sired numerous bastards, both before and after he swore his vows. Suffice to say, Robert Baratheon also never took his marriage vows seriously. As well, there is the matter of his physical abuse of his wife Cersei, and his child, Joffrey. Criminal law was inadequate to deal with this issue, since it is unclear with regards to the actions of husbands and fathers, and powerless with regard to kings.

The matter of Joffrey's abhorrent behavior is also at issue. Much of the cause is clearly the result of the dysfunctional household in which he was raised, the toxic marriage of Cersei Lannister and Robert Baratheon and which both exhibited unfaithfulness and disrespect. The court recognizes that Joffrey not only has become psychologically damaged, but also a danger to his siblings, as a result of his own abusive behavior towards them.

As a result, for the good of the family, and the realm, the court makes the following ruling:

THE MARRIAGE OF ROBERT BARATHEON AND CERSEI LANNISTER IS DECLARED TO BE AT AN END, and all powers and titles which flowed from it are now null and void.

Robert Baratheon is ordered to pay compensation to Cersei Lannister for years of deceit and abuse, in the sum of 1 million gold dragons, and Cersei Lannister (or her house) is likewise ordered to pay 1 million gold dragons to Robert Baratheon for her own ongoing abuse and deceit.

The bastard children of Robert Baratheon are to be aknowledged as his heirs-by-blood, and take the appropriate surnames as befits being his children. The court names Mya Stone, Gendry, Edric Storm, as his chief heirs, the others to be discovered and confirmed upon investigation. All children so named are to be raised in his care or compensation (child support) may be paid to assist in their proper raising and education. Given the defendant's earlier lack of involvement, the court reccomends, but will not order, that these children be fostered with any noble house of the realm with the exception of House Lannister or any of its bannermen.

The children previously considered royal are hereafter to be known as Joffrey, Myrcella, and Tommen Hill - as befits bastards born of the Westerlands. They are to be acknowledged as having been sired by Jaime Lannister. The legal matters of state with regard to their true parents are to be separately decided.

Joffrey, whose behavior is disturbing to say the least, is to be sent to the Night's Watch.

Myrcella and Tommen may remain in the care of House Lannister or be fostered out to any noble house or holy order which is willing to take them, so long as they and House Lannister openly renounce any claims they have to being of royal blood. However, they must not be harmed simply as a result of their parentage and family history.

[Ser Kismet]

1. Treason. Two Counts.

1.1 Not Guilty. The actions of Aerys II Targaryen broke the social contract implicit in being a ruler, thus losing his right to rule. It was the defendant's duty to overthrow said monarch. Furthermore, this judge would like to bring to this court's attention the wish of Aerys II Targaryen to murder the defendant, thus making the defendant's war against Aerys II Targaryen an act of self-defense.

1.2 Dismissed. Following the precedent set in R v. Stark, killing someone in battle is not considered murder in this court.

2. Attempted Murder. One Count.

2.1 Guilty. The attempted assassination of Daenerys Targaryen and her unborn chile was an unnecessary violence that mainly stemmed from the defendant's hatred of her family. However, it must be taken into account that the defendant's crime was partially made due to his fear of the victim invading his kingdom, causing violent war throughout the lands that the defendant had sworn to protect. Therefore, this judge would suggest a monetary fine to be paid to the victim of 50,000 gold dragons.

3. Assault Occasioning Actual Bodily Harm. Two counts

3.1 Guilty. The defendant raped and assaulted the victim, Cersei of House Lannister, many times throughout their marriage. However, this judge would like the court to take into account the actions of Cersei of House Lannister, whose actions towards the defendant were also inappropriate. This judge requires that the accused pay a monetary fine of 50, 000 to the victim and requires that Cersei of House Lannister and Robert of House Baratheon take a marriage counseling session .

3.2 Guilty. The defendant's abuse of his son is completely unacceptable. While the victim's actions, in killing and murdering a cat, were wrong, the victim was only a child. While the defendant's duty as a father was to discipline his son, violently beating a child is never acceptable. This judge would sentence the defendant to 150 hours of community service with counseling sessions. In addition, this judge recommends that the victim be removed from the household of the defendant and sent to live with either one of the victim's uncles or the victim's grandfather.

4. Misconduct in Public Office. Three Counts.

4.1 Guilty. The victims of said murder were innocents. Thus, murdering them was completely unacceptable in the eyes of this court, and, as king, it was the defendant's duty to investigate the murders and punish those who caused them. This judge requires that the defendant publicly apologize to the victims' families for his inaction, pay a monetary fine of 150,000 gold dragons (50,000 dragons for each victim) to the victims' families and be stripped of the title Protector of the Realm, as he failed his duty as protector in not punishing this crime.

4.2 Dismissed. The defendant, as king, had many different duties to attend to, and may not have been aware of the late Janos Slynt's actions. Therefore, it was the duty of the Master of Coin and the Master of Laws to bring manners such as the late Janos Slynt's embezzlement to the crown. While the defendant's neglect in this situation was completely unacceptable, this judge believes that he cannot be condemned for "permitting" actions that he was unaware of.

4.3 Guilty of neglect of matters of State, however, the charge of leaving the Iron Throne in debt is dismissed. Many of the defendant's actions in public office were evidence of the defendant's gross neglect of his duties, such as the defendant's decision to hunt and whore instead of attending to matters of state. However, as king, the defendant was within his rights to spend money on tourneys and feasts, as it is the duty of the head of state to entertain dignitaries. As the nation was being rebuilt after a war, the defendant may have chosen to spend excessively to rebuild public morale. While the defendant spent far too much, this judge believes that the charge must be dismissed as it is within the right of a ruler to host tourneys and feasts. The court recommends that the defendant be stripped of his titles as king of the realm, and be hereafter known only as the Lord of Storm's End, due to his clear inability to rule a kingdom, as evidenced by his gross neglect while in office.

5.1 Dismissed. This is neither a court of morality nor of the Faith, it is a court of law. This charge is completely inappropriate in a court of law, as there are no secular laws in Westeros that condemn adultery.

So, in summary, the defendant is guilty of charges 2.1, 3.1, 3.2, 4.1, and 4.3, and shall be stripped of his titles as king of Westeros, pay monetary fines as detailed above, be required to take both marriage counseling and parenthood counseling sessions, and be sentanced to 150 hours of community service.

[Morienthar]

1.Treason-Every rebellion is an act of Treason and Treason only holds if you lose...Dismissed,

2.Guilty-A Fine of 100000 dragons.

3.1Guilty-A 10-15 year jail term,Rape is wrong whatever the actions of the other person.

3.2Guilty-A year of parenting lessons from Tywin Lannister.

4.1Guilty-The Defendant cannot in future judge any matter criminal or civil brought before him and is stripped of the title Protector of the rleam.

4.2Not Guilty-Being dead at the time of the offence takes care of that.

4.3Guilty-Stripped of the title King and Lord and will serve as Kinght at Storms end or Winterfell(His Choosing).

5Dismissed-A matter between two consenting adults doesn't concern us.

[Leagon]

The Defendant, King Robert Baratheon, First of His Name, is charged with the following offences:-

1. Treason. Two Counts.

1.1 The Defendant is charged with having waged war against his lawful sovereign, Aerys II Targaryen, in violation of his oath of fealty.

1.2 The Defendant is charged with having slain the heir to the Iron Throne, Prince Rhaegar Targaryen of Dragonstone, in violation of his oath of fealty.

Dismissed. There's no one who could possibly press these charges. Everyone grieved is dead and Robert IS the state. He can't charge himself with treason against himself.

2. Attempted Murder. One Count.

The Defendant is charged with having attempted to procure the assassination of Princess Daenerys Targaryen and her unborn child, through the agency of a seller of poisoned wine.

Not guilty: As a head of state, he is allowed to employ the tools of war against foreign powers.

3. Assault Occasioning Actual Bodily Harm. Two counts

3.1 The Defendant is charged with having repeatedly assaulted his Queen, Cersei of House Lannister.

Not guilty: Insufficient evidence. We have only one witness who admitted that she NEVER wanted to have sex with her husband (a breach of the Westerosi marriage contract). In her eyes, any sexual act would then be an assault, but we have no concrete evidence that it was anything other than - perhaps rather vigorous - sex.

3.2 The Defendant is charged with having assaulted his son, Prince Joffrey, by beating him unconscious.

Not guilty: Corporal punishment is a legal and common practice. And the child was not beaten unconscious at all, as per the testimony of Stannis Baratheon.

4. Misconduct in Public Office. Three Counts.

4.1 The Defendant is charged with having failed to investigate or punish the murder of Princess Elia of Dorne, and her children, Prince Aegon and Princess Rhaenys.

Dismissed. It was a war of rebellion and royalty are legitimate military targets.

4.2 The Defendant is charged with having permitted the sale of public offices by the late Janos Slynt, formerly commander of the Gold Cloaks, styling himself Lord of Harrenhall.

Guilty: Punishment is a fine of 2000 dragons and a Royal apology.

4.3 The Defendant is charged with neglecting matters of State to the extent that the Iron Throne is in debt by six million dragons.

Dismissed. Most nations operate on a deficit. This is not a crime, it's government.

5. Fornication (at the insistence of the High Septon). One Count.

The Defendant is charged with having fornicated with numerous women, in violation of his solemn and sacred marriage vows.

Guilty: Punishment to be determined and enforced by the high court.

[Jon's Queen Consort]

1. Treason. Two Counts.

1.1 Not guilty, the Right of the Rebellion is a basic human right.

1.2 Not guilty, the Right of the Rebellion is a basic human right.

2. Attempted Murder. One Count.

Not guilty. It was future protection

3. Assault Occasioning Actual Bodily Harm. Two counts

3.1 Not guilty. Medieval setting

3.2 Not guilty. Medieval setting.

4. Misconduct in Public Office. Three Counts.

4.1 Not guilty he had no reason to do it.

4.2 Gulty monetary fine.

4.3 Not guilty. Medieval setting.

5. Fornication (at the insistence of the High Septon). One Count.

Not guilty. Medieval setting.

Robert of the House Baratheon, the First of his Name, King of the Andals and the Rhoynar and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm has been finded non guilty at 1,2,3,4.1,4.3 and 5 and guilty at 4.2 he should pay a monetary fine

[Lord Freypie]

How can you consider both "human rights" and "medieval setting" in the same judgement ?

Concept of "human rights" didn't exist in medieval era as far I know..

[Thendel]

On the charges against Robert Baratheon, King of the Andals, the Rhoynar and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm, this juror finds:

1. Treason:

1.1: Not Guilty. This juror notes that whatever actions the defendant took against King Aerys, the monarch in question failed in his obligations to be fair and just to his lords, and thus revoked all claims of fealty for the lords in question. The legitimacy of the Rebellion was later verified when the defendant claimed the throne by right of conquest and was acknowledged by the lords of the Seven Kingdoms.

1.2: Not Guilty. See above. Moreover, this was an act of war.

2. Attempted Murder: Guilty. In the eyes of this juror, the victim was not a reasonable threat to the security of the realm at the time the orders were given, thus the defendant cannot claim to have acted in proportion with the severity of the problem.

3. Assault Occasioning Actual Bodily Harm:

3.1: Delegated to Family Court.

3.2: Delegated to Family Court.

4. Misconduct of Public Office:

4.1: Guilty. The orders given by Tywin Lannister were not proportional to the severity of the threat posed by the victims in question. By failing to pass justice over the murders, the defendant is thus guilty.

4.2: Guilty. The defendant was ultimately responsible for punishing crimes that were brought before him. By failing to do so, the defendant facilitated corruption within the City Watch.

4.3: Not Guilty. There is no law requiring a strict fiscal policy.

5. Fornication: Delegated to Family Court.

Court of Law Verdict: The defendant is found guilty of: One Count of Attempted Murder and Two Counts of Misconducting in Public Office. The defendant will be required to pay a monetary fine of 1 million golden dragons. Furthermore, the defendant shall be put under scrutiny by a nonpartisan review board for a period of five years. Should the board find further instances of misconduct, the defendant's worthiness of the crown will be put to revision.

Family Court:

On the defendant's relationship with Cersei Baratheon: Having reviewed the actions of Robert Baratheon and Cersei Baratheon née Lannister, this juror has found multiple occasions of adultery and physical and mental abuse on both parts. For this reason, the marriage - and all obligations therein - between the two is hereby revoked. The defendant will be required to pay 100.000 golden dragons a year in support for his now ex-wife.

On the defendant's relationship with his children: With this juror having found the children Joffrey, Myrcella and Tommen to not be biological offspring of the defendant, the defendant is absolved of any parental obligation towards their well-being. Accordingly, the children are stripped of their postions as members of House Baratheon of King's Landing, and will have no claim to any of the defendant's lands or titles. For physically abusing the boy Joffrey, the defendant is to be warned that should the court find further evidence of child abuse, he is to lose all claims of custody over any children born of his body.

[Leagon]

How can you consider both "human rights" and "medieval setting" in the same judgement ?

Concept of "human rights" didn't exist in medieval era as far I know..

Good point.

People are also convicting Robert of rape then sentencing him to pay a fine or take marriage classes, lol. This court is a farce.

[Jon's Queen Consort]

How can you consider both "human rights" and "medieval setting" in the same judgement ?

Concept of "human rights" didn't exist in medieval era as far I know..

do you prefer Self-defense?

[daario's man]

1.1. Not guilty, this was an act of self defence nothing more.

1.2. Not guilty, killing someone on the battlefield is not murder.

2. Not guilty, although somewhat foolish and cruel he does believe himself to be acting in the interests of the Realm. A note should be made that similar acts in the future will not be treated so leniently.

3.1. Guilty, beating anyone supposedly under your protection is wrong. A fine should be paid to Cersei Lannister.

3.2. Guilty, although Joffery Baratheon was wrong in the first place his act did not warrant Robert's response. A period of community service is recommended, also Robert must spend time with his son.

4.1 Guilty, the defendant not only failed to investigate these crimes but condoned them as they directly benefited him. He should be sent to the wall.

4.2. Guilty, the charge cannot lie purely with the defendant though, Jon Arryn appointed Janos Slynt and Renly Baratheon failed to investigate the matter. Community service for Robert but sterner punishments must come to Lord Arryn and Prince Renly.

4.3. Guilty, mismanagement of the economy for personal gain has not only left the state in massive debt but has left parties within and without the state to much power over the crown. The defendant should be sent to the wall.

5. Dismissed, neither Robert nor Cersei held their marriage vows particularly sacred making the matter null and void.

[Pod The Impaler]

*bump* Edited my post above to remove the errors.

[Sullen]

All is Dismissed.

Robert is the rightful king of the Seven Kingdoms, the absolute power and the very being that decides what is lawful and what is not.

[DogLover]

*bump*

Is there going to be an official verdict soon?

[Dagon Greyjoy]

The Defendant, King Robert Baratheon, First of His Name, is charged with the following offences:-

1. Treason. Two Counts.

1.1 The Defendant is charged with having waged war against his lawful sovereign, Aerys II Targaryen, in violation of his oath of fealty.

1.2 The Defendant is charged with having slain the heir to the Iron Throne, Prince Rhaegar Targaryen of Dragonstone, in violation of his oath of fealty.

2. Attempted Murder. One Count.

The Defendant is charged with having attempted to procure the assassination of Princess Daenerys Targaryen and her unborn child, through the agency of a seller of poisoned wine.

3. Assault Occasioning Actual Bodily Harm. Two counts

3.1 The Defendant is charged with having repeatedly assaulted his Queen, Cersei of House Lannister.

3.2 The Defendant is charged with having assaulted his son, Prince Joffrey, by beating him unconscious.

4. Misconduct in Public Office. Three Counts.

4.1 The Defendant is charged with having failed to investigate or punish the murder of Princess Elia of Dorne, and her children, Prince Aegon and Princess Rhaenys.

4.2 The Defendant is charged with having permitted the sale of public offices by the late Janos Slynt, formerly commander of the Gold Cloaks, styling himself Lord of Harrenhall.

4.3 The Defendant is charged with neglecting matters of State to the extent that the Iron Throne is in debt by six million dragons.

5. Fornication (at the insistence of the High Septon). One Count.

The Defendant is charged with having fornicated with numerous women, in violation of his solemn and sacred marriage vows.

1.1. Not guilty. Aerys started the war when he decided it was a good idea to murder Ned Stark's family and demand Ned and Robert's heads. He forced their hand and lost, sucks to be Aerys. Dismissed.

1.2. Not guilty. Having established the war to be justified, slaying combatants in open battle cannot be neither treason nor murder. Dismissed

2. Guilty. Punishment: For the attempted assassination, this court sentences him to death by the sword. However, as the attempt failed we shall commute it to The Wall.

3.1 Guilty. For the batteries, he shall pay a large monetary fine to Cersei Lannister. For the serial rapes, he shall be gelded and sent to the Wall.

3.2 This Court finds the savage beating that almost killed Joffrey Hill child abuse (not because he didn't deserve a beating, but because the defendant nearly killed'im). However, we've chosen to reduce the sentence on account of said Joffrey Hill being a little shit. Monetary fine.

4.1. For being complicit to the rape and murder Elia Martell and the grievous murders of his rival claimants, this court strips him of all lands and titles and sends him to the Wall.

4.2 and 4.3. For his complete and utter incompetence, this Court strips him of all lands and titles.

5. For wasting the Court's time and being a moralistic little shit, the High Septon shall be flogged before the Sept of Baelor and then sent to preach to the Ironborn, in the hopes that they might drown him and shut him up for good.

All is Dismissed.

Robert is the rightful king of the Seven Kingdoms, the absolute power and the very being that decides what is lawful and what is not.

If he is in a position to be judged, his word is no longer law. Might makes right: If someone seizes a King and puts him to trial, they have been victorious over said king, and victory washes away treason.

[WinterKing]

How this appeared in the general forum again?

[Alester Florent]

Hooray, the thread's back!

1. Treason. Two Counts.

1.1 The Defendant is charged with having waged war against his lawful sovereign, Aerys II Targaryen, in violation of his oath of fealty.

1.2 The Defendant is charged with having slain the heir to the Iron Throne, Prince Rhaegar Targaryen of Dragonstone, in violation of his oath of fealty.

Not guilty:

1.1 Aerys II Targaryen had broken the social contract and was no true sovereign at the time of the rebellion. Moreover, the Defendant acted to defend himself from unlawful arrest and summary execution.

1.2 Rhaegar Targaryen was slain in combat on the battlefield during an acknowledged state of war. Moreover, the Defendant swore no oath of fealty to Rhaegar Targaryen.

2. Attempted Murder. One Count.

The Defendant is charged with having attempted to procure the assassination of Princess Daenerys Targaryen and her unborn child, through the agency of a seller of poisoned wine.

Not guilty. The purported victim was at all material times a declared traitor against Robert Baratheon, with intent to overthrow him through violence. In the absence of recognised extradition procedures, assassination was the only option available to carry out sentence against her.

3. Assault Occasioning Actual Bodily Harm. Two counts

3.1 The Defendant is charged with having repeatedly assaulted his Queen, Cersei of House Lannister.

3.2 The Defendant is charged with having assaulted his son, Prince Joffrey, by beating him unconscious.

3.1 Guilty on one count (witnessed by Ned Stark). Further counts require further evidence to prove beyond reasonable doubt. It is not wholly clear in the mind of this judge that the injury inflicted was more than "transient and trifling" nor that it was calculated to interfere with the health or comfort of the victim. In light of the testimony of Eddard Stark these points are taken as proven but with a caution. Note for these purposes the alleged sexual offences against Cersei Lannister have not been considered as they do not appear to have occasioned ABH and no charge has been brought.

3.2 Not Guilty. By common convention and the laws of Westeros, parents are permitted to discipline their children for transgressions, proportionate to the severity of the crime. The crime was grievous, and in the Defendant's defence his response appears to have been confined to a single blow; moreover, a defence of temporary loss of self-control is also in operation. Further, it has not been proved beyond reasonable doubt in the opinion of this judge that the victim was rendered unconscious; while a witness speaks of him "knocked senseless" it is not sufficiently clear whether this was figurative or literal.

4. Misconduct in Public Office. Three Counts.

4.1 The Defendant is charged with having failed to investigate or punish the murder of Princess Elia of Dorne, and her children, Prince Aegon and Princess Rhaenys.

4.2 The Defendant is charged with having permitted the sale of public offices by the late Janos Slynt, formerly commander of the Gold Cloaks, styling himself Lord of Harrenhall.

4.3 The Defendant is charged with neglecting matters of State to the extent that the Iron Throne is in debt by six million dragons.

4.1 Guilty, inasmuch as negligence in this instance is capable of amounting to a crime. On reading earlier opinions of other judges, the original verdict is revoked and a verdict of Not Guilty returned. The Defendant acted within his legal rights in failing to investigate and/or issuing pardons.

4.2 Guilty on the principle of vicarious liability. Knowledge of this matter is assumed, although it is not apparent that the Defendant had in any way personal knowledge of the situation.

4.3 Dismissed. This judge is not of the opinion that management of economic affairs of the state to the extent of establishing a national debt is capable of amounting to a crime, nor that, even if it were, the Defendant's conduct is capable of amounting to criminal negligence in this instance.

5. Fornication (at the insistence of the High Septon). One Count.

The Defendant is charged with having fornicated with numerous women, in violation of his solemn and sacred marriage vows.

Guilty, inasmuch as this is capable of amounting to a crime (which in the opinion of this judge, it is not).

The Defendant is found guilty on four counts:

3.1 Assault occasioning ABH.

4.1 Failure to investigate murder.

4.2 Permission of corruption.

5 Fornication.

To charge 4.2, the mitigating factors of lack of knowledge and ill counsel on the part of the King's advisors (most notably, Jon Arryn Hand of the King) are advanced. Robert Baratheon is sentenced to a monetary fine.

To charge 5, this judge repeats his earlier comment about the suspect nature of this as a crime. It is further put forward in mitigation that the marriage was a loveless one and both parties to the marriage were in violation of its vows. It is additionally advanced in mitigation that the Defendant has made adequate provision for the care of any children born of his extramarital unions.

The mitigating factor of provocation is advanced for charge 3.1. Note also the absence of any aggravating factors.

For charge 3.1, the Defendant is sentenced to a community order for a period of 12 months.

For charge 5, the Defendant is pardoned. A court order should be issued to ensure the Defendant continues his maintenance of mistresses and children.

In summary: Monetary fine, community order and sundry court orders.

[SeanF]

The Court has now reached its verdict in relation to the Defendant, King Robert Baratheon, First of His Name.

Count 1.1 Guilty 0, Not Guilty 22.

Count 1.2 Guilty 0, Not Guilty 22.

Count 2. Guilty 14. Not Guilty 8.

Count 3.1 Guilty 16, Not Guilty 6.

Count 3.2 Guilty 12. Not Guilty 10.

Count 4.1 Guilty 14. Not Guilty 8.

Count 4.2 Guilty 13. Not Guilty 9.

Count 4.3 Guilty 10. Not Guilty 12.

Count 5 Guilty 6, Not Guilty 16.

This Court therefore finds the Defendant Guilty of one count of Attempted Murder, Two counts of Assault occasioning Actual Bodily Harm, and Two Counts of Misconduct in Public Office.

The Defendant is most honourably acquitted of two counts of treason, one count of Misconduct in Public Office, and one count of fornication.

The Court will now retire to consider its sentence.