KoishNoish Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 "Chaos isn't a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail, never have to try again. The fall breaks them. And some are given a chance to climb but they refuse, they cling to the realm or the Gods or love, (not sure what he says next but I think he says 'confusions'), only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is."I found this to be my favorite scene in this episode and it had me shivering from the first line. Of course there's a bit before with Varys but I think this truly unveils how Littlefinger sees the game he's playing and how people ascend into it. I find it interesting that it focuses on the sobbing Sansa when he talks of those refusing to climb, I'm thinking we've got some serious foreshadowing there. As for Ros there's a different thread for her but I'm personally fine with her departure. We've seen how Varys is someone who you don't want to mess with (that scene with the sorcerer from some weeks back) now we get to see Littlefinger's claws and I just want to see more. I'm supposing that last scene where Sansa was watching the boat was certainly him finally leaving for the Eyrie.Your thoughts on this scene and the monologue? I thought it was superb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadwood Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 "Chaos isn't a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail, never have to try again. The fall breaks them. And some are given a chance to climb but they refuse, they cling to the realm or the Gods or love, (not sure what he says next but I think he says 'confusions'), only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is."I found this to be my favorite scene in this episode and it had me shivering from the first line. Of course there's a bit before with Varys but I think this truly unveils how Littlefinger sees the game he's playing and how people ascend into it. I find it interesting that it focuses on the sobbing Sansa when he talks of those refusing to climb, I'm thinking we've got some serious foreshadowing there. As for Ros there's a different thread for her but I'm personally fine with her departure. We've seen how Varys is someone who you don't want to mess with (that scene with the sorcerer from some weeks back) now we get to see Littlefinger's claws and I just want to see more. I'm supposing that last scene where Sansa was watching the boat was certainly him finally leaving for the Eyrie.Your thoughts on this scene and the monologue? I thought it was superb.Are there any other monologues as good as that in the series? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born Sinner Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 "Chaos isn't a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail, never have to try again. The fall breaks them. And some are given a chance to climb but they refuse, they cling to the realm or the Gods or love, (not sure what he says next but I think he says 'confusions'), only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is."I found this to be my favorite scene in this episode and it had me shivering from the first line. Of course there's a bit before with Varys but I think this truly unveils how Littlefinger sees the game he's playing and how people ascend into it. I find it interesting that it focuses on the sobbing Sansa when he talks of those refusing to climb, I'm thinking we've got some serious foreshadowing there. As for Ros there's a different thread for her but I'm personally fine with her departure. We've seen how Varys is someone who you don't want to mess with (that scene with the sorcerer from some weeks back) now we get to see Littlefinger's claws and I just want to see more. I'm supposing that last scene where Sansa was watching the boat was certainly him finally leaving for the Eyrie.Your thoughts on this scene and the monologue? I thought it was superb.he says "illusions" meaning that the realm, the gods or love aren't real and only the ladder is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matoro Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 The best monologue in the show. So epic. Shows masterfully LFs way to think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atropis the Elf Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 "Chaos isn't a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail, never have to try again. The fall breaks them. And some are given a chance to climb but they refuse, they cling to the realm or the Gods or love, (not sure what he says next but I think he says 'confusions'), only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is."I found this to be my favorite scene in this episode and it had me shivering from the first line. Of course there's a bit before with Varys but I think this truly unveils how Littlefinger sees the game he's playing and how people ascend into it. I find it interesting that it focuses on the sobbing Sansa when he talks of those refusing to climb, I'm thinking we've got some serious foreshadowing there. As for Ros there's a different thread for her but I'm personally fine with her departure. We've seen how Varys is someone who you don't want to mess with (that scene with the sorcerer from some weeks back) now we get to see Littlefinger's claws and I just want to see more. I'm supposing that last scene where Sansa was watching the boat was certainly him finally leaving for the Eyrie.Your thoughts on this scene and the monologue? I thought it was superb.I totally agree with you. Sansa's crying watching the ship and Ros' gruesome death made that monologue very intense. In my view, it also justifies Vary's line about LF "He would see this country burn if he could be king of the ashes." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maiden of tarth Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 I get that Sansa was crying because she had just found out about her impending marriage to Tyrion, thereby dashing her dreams of being Mrs Loras Tyrell. BUT why was she watching Petyr Baelish sailing away whilst she was crying? I didn't get the relevance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambi76 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Because Littlefinger had offered her an escape from KL which she declined because of the betrothal to Loras. Now she wished she had taken it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Cygne Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 I was looking at the season 3 promo again, a little bit of it was left out (they refuse, illusions) but the timing of the shots, is roughly: Chaos isn't a pit, chaos is a ladder. (Dany, Tyrion)Many who try to climb it fail, never get to try again. The fall breaks them. (Sansa, Joffrey, Sandor, Jaime, Cersei)And some are given a chance to climb, but they refuse. They cling to the realm, or the gods, or love. Illusions. (Arya, Robb, Catelyn, Jon Snow)Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is. Maybe there's nothing to the order, just thought I'd look... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairGrowsBack Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Well, each line does fit the characters' situations well enough, except maybe for Jaime, whom I would've put with "but they refuse..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Cygne Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 I was thinking the same, and also Sandor, they did sort of climb by joining the Kingsguard. Jaime had to stand by while the queen was beaten, Sandor had to stand by while Sansa was beaten. They both had bad experiences with it. And both walked off the job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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