messem Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Varys among the actual players. The guy just comes out nowhere.I like Varys too, but he is so extremely powerful he has to hide. That's not what I call power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faint Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I want to say Mace Tyrell but I think it should be pointed out that Varys could probably have him assassinated rather easily. Ferrego Antaryon is another strong candidate, although he is probably soon to perish. Daenerys has all the potential in the world but she is surrounded by enemies at the moment and is dealing with a laundry list of problems. There really is no easy answer to this question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morienthar Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Still not omniscience though is it.Nearly Omniscient,they seem to keep an eye on everything that's happening and has been happening even since the time of the Doom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Duncan of Flea Bottom Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Littlefinger and Varys are the most dangerouswhere I can't see Littlerfinger, I see Varyswhere I can't see Varys, I see Littlefingerthey are the most two dangerous players of this game of thrones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unSonofStannis Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Potentially Lord Tarly if he takes the Tyrells out in a coup along with the High Sparrow. Euron Greyjoy would be second with Aegon third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBean Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I guess, in terms of raw power, it's Dany. But she doesn't have a lot of political skills.Best at behind the scenes: Varys (maybe Bloodraven)In power right now, but surely going to lose it: Mace Tyrell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteWalder Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 If I think about a group of people, then the Others are pretty powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
im317 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 well i don't think hes the most powerful(not sure anyone is right now) i think Benerro has to be among the most powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luthien Targaryen Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Varys and or Melisandre, i'd say.Normally i'd put in a vote for the mighty Littlefinger, but at the moment he's only messing about in the Eyrie up to goodness knows what, but the only people he's really bothering to dominate are the lords of the Vale and Sansa. Melisandre, to my mind is the power behind Stannis. Sure Dany's got an army and three pet flamethrowers but does she really know what to do with them? Stannis could lead an army, and you have to admit, what with glamour and demonbabies and the potential to raise the dead, Melisandre has a lot of party tricks at her disposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictarion Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 She has a dragon. Maybe. That will probably be warged. Nuff said.Don't know where all this " she only has one dragon" stuff comes from. Last time I checked Rhaegal and Viserion are still alive and will be well guarded til she returns. And I'm sure there were wargs around during Aegon's conquest, how did that work out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Targaryen King Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Depends on the sort of power, my first answer would be Varys tho. While other characters go through the cycles of gaining and losing power throughout the series. He always seems to keep a hold on his.Second answer Melisandre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draxus Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 The two characters who will eventually become AAR and the Great Other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jalapenohitchhiker Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Hot Pie. Nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sullen Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Hot Pie. Nuff said.You make a strong enough case.well i don't think hes the most powerful(not sure anyone is right now) i think Benerro has to be among the most powerful.Hadn't really thought of him, but yes, you might be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maegor the Cuddly Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Mace Tyrell. He and the armies of the Reach is the only reason that the Lannisters aren't down for the count. All he has to do to take out the Lannisters once and for all is put the army he's already got at the Red Keep to arrest and take out the Lannisters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the Road Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Varys could end up being in a commanding position, though this would be largely dependent on the outcome of Aegon's invasion. Much the same for Littlefinger, as he is very much reliant on his plans in the Vale unfolding perfectly. For me, it has to be The High Sparrow. With the following he has, he's almost untouchable and can thus afford to take a much greater role in the politics of the realm. Anyone who can afford to arrest the mother of the king has to be in a commanding position, added to which he is utterly ruthless and will do anything to achieve his aims.I seriously hope GRRM expands on his role in TWoW. He's probably one of the most interesting new characters, and, one might argue, one of the most believable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris999 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Maybe not quite at this moment, but I have a feeling tht Dany is about to become the most pwerful very soon, and will probably even stay that way to the end, or at least until near the end.She already is liberating slaves, giving her high morale behind her ranks. Her followers adore her, even in her madness. Also I think she is about to steal the Dothraki army that is about to catch up with her. Is it one of Drogo's ex bloodriders that she will kill and take command of his Khalisar? The Dothraki follow strength, and some of them will remember how strong she was a Drogo's wife, and will follow her again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Meeraculous Third Reed Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Don't know where all this " she only has one dragon" stuff comes from. Last time I checked Rhaegal and Viserion are still alive and will be well guarded til she returns. And I'm sure there were wargs around during Aegon's conquest, how did that work out?We don't know. Torrhen bent the knee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameron Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 id say roose and doran both deserve honourable mention. while they aren't the most powerful, they are certainly powerful enough to have a big impact on the game. both are highly calculated in their moves. however, id agree with the arguments that Vary's and Littlefinger are the most powerful in terms of influence. we don't really know enough about the iron bank to make assumptions, but they are definitely up there. id tend to say olena is more powerful than mace, since she is much more calculated in her moves. Dany is certainly militarily powerful, but not a brilliant manipulator, and tends to be very straightforward with her moves. she has succeeded largely because of good advisors and brute force, which is arguably equivalent to "power". however, i think its questionable at best. the High Sparrow has a lot of influence with the commoners, which puts him ahead of them all. having control of the commoners is much more important than controling high lords, as the commoners outnumber them significantly. as he also has a military order now, who can train said commoners in warfare, he has the most potential power by far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theda Baratheon Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 I'm just waiting for Mel to unveil herself as some ALL MIGHTY MAGICAL GODDESS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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