[Book Spoilers] Talisa is pregnant?

[Er Rn]

I think Talisa is a goner now as well.

The main question I have about this now is how will it effect Robb's will and legitimizing Jon?

[Nuncle Kraken]

GRRM wrote her being preggers just to screw with our heads. Lol

[Lord_Ravenstone]

Talisa could replace Jeyne Poole.

Robb could still legitimize Jon as a Stark seeing as he still thinks his brothers are dead.

Too little Starks around so far.

And the baby could die so.....

Jon could still end up as heir.

[Er Rn]

There won't be a will and it won't matter. It didn't matter in the books.

It was confirmed that Jon was legitimized in Robb's will.

And just because it hasn't really mattered so far doesn't mean it won't in the future.

[Lord_Ravenstone]

Yeah or GRRM is really screwing with us.

Let's consider that baby dead. We should know GRRM by now.

[Mark Antony]

She's either a spy or she's dying at the Red Wedding imo.

[King Zee]

look seriously. there is no way Robb's will in the novels simply names Jon his heir.

It would say "in the event I die and have no children, then Jon is my heir" Robb wouldn't create a will disinheriting any future children he has..

All this means is Talisa is dead.

[briantw]

Honestly, I was down with the "spy" theory until she told Robb she was pregnant. Now I think she's going to die as more of a gut punch to the viewers. If she's a spy, she has no reason to tell Robb she's pregnant. He's going to the Red Wedding anyway, so what purpose does that particular lie serve? I almost think D&D might be trolling viewers who are into the spy theory at this point by having her constantly write letters on screen.

Of course, I could be entirely wrong and she could be a spy. They've certainly set that possibility up. I just don't see the point after tonight.

[Tony Stark]

Since we saw so little of Grey Wind I'm certain they will kill pregnant Talisa in front of Robb, just to make things even worse.

Was Grey Wind killed before Robb? I thought he was outside tearing **** up?

Do you guys think we'll see that scene? So many dragons scenes, we need more direwolves...espeically with Grey Wind going out. I believe it was Jeyne Westerling's brother who attempted to free Grey Wind.

[Capt. Zemblanity]

Please don't make her FArya. That doesn't make any sense. She doesn't have any claims to anything.

[Stag Country]

But I found it more surprising that the Blackfish is also going!

Yeah. I'm hoping that Blackfish doesn't die at the Twins....but really only for the purposes of the books, the show Blackfish is nowhere near as memorable as the book version (like almost every other character in the northern story line thus far).

[Magic 8 Ball]

Talisa is lying about being prego because she is a spy.

More distraction for Robb so he doesn't realize he's walking into a trap.

[dttljs123]

Just like Jeyne Westerling, Talisa isn't of much use after Robb's death, so that's why she's going also to the Twins.

But I found it more surprising that the Blackfish is also going!

This makes perfect sense in my opinion, the Blackfish will escort Edmure to be bedded by Roslin at the R.W. When he returns and see the Freys and the Pink Cloaked Man and what the have done to Robb, he will escape either alone, possibly with Talisa (I really want her dead, just for a quick second I need to bitch about the show; D&D made Robb Sta.rk fall in love with some girl from across the narrow sea, someone who not highborn, the books he married a Westerling of the Crag, bannerman to the Lannisters. While not a horrible choice the Westerlings have no significant lands or forces. They contribute to Robb's cause but his squire (a westerling) dies at the R.W. and in the books Jaime Lannister gets two firms yes's that Jeyne isn't pregnant, solving the heir to the North problem, making it lie on Sansa. until Rickon appears :)) Anyhow, the blackfish must make it back to Riverrun for his eventual meeting with the Kingslayer.

[Stag Country]

If there is still a will, I'm curious as to whether or not Cat will object to Jon's legitimization.....seeing as she had that heart to heart with Talisa earlier.

[JonCon's Red Beard]

There is the chance that she's lying but the question is, why to do it? If she's indeed a spy and she's there to betray them all, why saying "I'm pregnant"? Make no sense, yet.

But maybe, the plot has changed into her purposely getting pregnant so they still could have a son of Robb's Stark to rule Winterfell in name of the Lannister, if Talisa's family are indeed Lannister loyalists (or at least, they're allies) and they wanted her to do it. Then, it would make sense that she seduced him and even didn't matter that she fell in love with him, probably thinking that she would be spared.

[Magic 8 Ball]

He's still married to Jeyne Westerling. She just calls herself Talisa in this version. Because she's, you know...

[Lady Arwen]

Talisa is lying about being prego because she is a spy.

More distraction for Robb so he doesn't realize he's walking into a trap.

:agree: This. I could work with this.

[alexislalas]

:agree: This. I could work with this.

Sounds about right.

[TheBastardofBluegrass]

This makes perfect sense in my opinion, the Blackfish will escort Edmure to be bedded by Roslin at the R.W. When he returns and see the Freys and the Pink Cloaked Man and what the have done to Robb, he will escape either alone, possibly with Talisa (I really want her dead, just for a quick second I need to bitch about the show; D&D made Robb Sta.rk fall in love with some girl from across the narrow sea, someone who not highborn, the books he married a Westerling of the Crag, bannerman to the Lannisters. While not a horrible choice the Westerlings have no significant lands or forces. They contribute to Robb's cause but his squire (a westerling) dies at the R.W. and in the books Jaime Lannister gets two firms yes's that Jeyne isn't pregnant, solving the heir to the North problem, making it lie on Sansa. until Rickon appears :)) Anyhow, the blackfish must make it back to Riverrun for his eventual meeting with the Kingslayer.

I agree whole-heartedly I can't remember whether the particular scene is from AFFC or ADWD but when Jamie and the Blackfish meet and Jamie admits to Brynden that the Blackfish was his idol is a pretty awesome scene, along with their whole back-and-forth of who could take who now, it's a very very typical Jamie scene while also revealing a bit of heart. I know it's trivial and probably insignificant in the grand scheme of the whole saga, but scenes like that are what make the show and saga so awesome, IMO.

[StarkBlack21]

I think Talisa will replace Fake Arya. I have been saying it from the beginning. for TV viewers it will make Theon's redemption arc stronger. Think about it. Theon betrayed his best friend Robb, and now he saves the love of Robb's life/wife from the sadistic Ramsay. TV viewers will be praising Theon to the high heavens. Plus we've seen Ramsay's sadistic nature on screen, TV viewers will be terrified Talisa is going to be in the hands of the evil bastard. Plus, they've played up that Roose doesn't liek Talisa. He's always glaring at her. I'm sure it will be his suggestion to give her to Ramsay.