teemo Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Will it be cut considering there were no witnesses besides Gilly? They could easily be lying and I doubt anyone would believe them anyway. Do you think his nickname is cut or will his brothers believe the story? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victim Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Have you ever told a story that is so ridiculous that nobody believes it? When you keep insisting that it's true, people start to mock you. 'Sam the Slayer' is just a nickname that people use to tease and belittle, not entirely unlike Lord Snow. It's not like many people believed it in the first place, whether Grenn is there or not hardly matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall Tyrion Lannister! Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Maybe she'll mention it once or twice and that'll be a nod to the book., but if i was a brother i'm not sure i'd buy it unless i saw it first hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Have you ever told a story that is so ridiculous that nobody believes it? When you keep insisting that it's true, people start to mock you. 'Sam the Slayer' is just a nickname that people use to tease and belittle, not entirely unlike Lord Snow. It's not like many people believed it in the first place, whether Grenn is there or not hardly matters.Exactly, they had witnesses in the book and yet, people didn't completely believe it. This could be the same: some might believe it, some others won't. Those who are nice to him might. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMJ Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 He left the dragonglass knife with Puddles... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Nan Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 He left the dragonglass knife with Puddles...or should we call him "shards" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PG_Tips Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Sam needs to tell them as it's important, So he will tell people and some won't believe him and call him Sam the Slayer to mock him. But Jon will believe and that's all that matters as he'll be the Lord Commander. I don't think it'll be out but I guess we'll have to wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Knight of Flours Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 There at least has to be one mention of 'Sam the Slayer' on the show (though I'm sure it will be to mock Sam). It is known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kephv Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I'm sure Gilly will mention it to one of the black brothers back at Castle Black and the name will take hold there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMJ Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 That Other did look like the same one who made eye contact with Sam at the end of S2 (the one on horseback). If so, then why did he leave Sam alone the first time around and come after Sam, Gilly and the baby this time? Was Gilly's son what he was after, ala Craster's sacrifices? He clearly did not intend to kill Sam either time, as he merely shattered Sam's sword and flung him aside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amilas Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I think they might go the way victim is proposing, where they will probably mock Sam when he tells them the story later. That being said, it will probably be one throw-away line meant for the readers and then they will move onto how obsidian kills the Others. Too bad too. "Sam the Slayer" is a great turning point in Sam's character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Envie Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 If I remember correctly from the books, not very many people took the story seriously even though there were witnesses who saw Sam do it and he was mocked with the title anyways. In this case, Gilly is the only witness and people won't take her seriously either but they'll still mock Sam with the title and that still works I guess. I'm also one of those obsessed with the fact they ran off and he left the damn dragonglass laying there in the snow!! :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywolf2375 Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 One of the things that made the Sam the Slayer nickname even more of a mockery was the fact that he just stabbed blindly at the Other and happened to connect.Yes, many did mock him for the act since they didn't believe it but having the discussion between Grenn and Sam when Sam asked to not be called that I thought was kinda important for both of their characters.Leaving the dagger behind is just another way of having it get destroyed without him having to fight another one and have it shatter. it also might lend to the "I left it there. And more back at the...." if they do want to go in the direction of having found a cache of them that are no longer available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymeria's pup Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I was yelling at him to go back and pick up the dagger. I think that perhaps Coldhands will pick it up and return it to Sam when they meet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nirolo Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 I was yelling at him to go back and pick up the dagger. I think that perhaps Coldhands will pick it up and return it to Sam when they meet.Seriously!How on earth is Sam supposed to be the Slayer if he doesn't even have the freaking dagger he used for the slaying?Ridiculous. Just ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Duncan of Flea Bottom Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 he could have the dagger if Coldhands returns it to him, maybe Coldhands is close and will teach him the importance of Dragon glass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasrith Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Will it be cut considering there were no witnesses besides Gilly? They could easily be lying and I doubt anyone would believe them anyway. Do you think his nickname is cut or will his brothers believe the story?They don't have to believe his story in order to start ironically calling him Slayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naik2902 Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 who gave dragonglass to COTF ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyful Union Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 The important thing is that Jon believes Sam, and tries to get hold of Dragonglass later on. "Slayer" was always a mocking nickname for most I got the impression, so it can still take root that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Elsa Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 He left the dragonglass knife with Puddles...Such a rare thing got left behind. Hopefully Edd and Grenn will find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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