Riurik Novgorod Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 I don´t get it!!She sends Brienne with Jaime alone (oh right, with Cleos...) to King´s Landing hoping that the Lannisters will release Sansa and Arya?!Why not to get Jaime and still keep the two Starks? For honour?I think it was a stupid move!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luthien Targaryen Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 I think it was in desperation, as far as she can tell Rickon and Bran are dead, so's her husband and her father is dying (oh and her sister has gone round the twist...), getting the girl's back is the one thing that Catelyn's got left. You are right, she seriously underestimated Cersei if she thinks the swop has an ice cream's chance in hell of working, but she thinks it's her last chance to save her daughters. I don't think Catelyn's thinking very clearly or logically at the time, but she's under a hell of a lot of stress. Another factor may well be that if Robb agrees with Rickard Karstark and has Jaime executed, then Cersei is very likely to kill or hurt the girls, getting Jaime out the way might just give the girls a bit more of a chance and buy her Catelyn some time to think up a better plan, but i doubt it....i think Catelyn made a gut decision under stress which didn't make much sense. At least lady Mormont and the Greatjon are almost understanding about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Selig Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Tyrion the Hand at the time promised to exchanged the girls for Jaime in front of the whole court. Lannisters may be every bad thing, but they keep their word and care an awful lot for their reputation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Harrenhal Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 because she was in mourning an being an irrational woman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sordelor Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Another factor may well be that if Robb agrees with Rickard Karstark and has Jaime executedIn the book Rickard Karstark never said Jaime had to die before Catelyn released him, that was only in the tv show, you are confusing the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luthien Targaryen Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Sorry, that happens occasionally, Karstark's not one of the people i pay much attention to (i don't recall him much on the telly either). Are there people saying "we should kill the Kingslayer now!" before Catelyn let him go? I reckon somebody must have threatened a bit...which might have been enough to make Catelyn wonder if releasing him was worth the risk. She wasn't thinking straight that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bib Fortuna Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Wasn't Karstark really upset with Jaime's release? I mean, he used Cat's actions to justify his own murder of the Lannister boys, IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalalOfDorne Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Tyrion was willing to trade Sansa for Jaime. It was Catelyns only chance to get her daughter back, and it would have worked had Tywin not returned to assume the position of Hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalalOfDorne Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Wasn't Karstark really upset with Jaime's release? I mean, he used Cat's actions to justify his own murder of the Lannister boys, IIRC.He was upset even though he had no right to kill the Lannister boys or kill Jaime as he wasnt his prisoner. And people lose their family at war, but for some reason Karstark didnt understand that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compulsive_reader Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 She was desperate to get her daugthers back and had to do something, she thought that this would work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie Manderly Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Because she took Jaimes word of honor but the Lannisters have no honor, it is known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalalOfDorne Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Because she took Jaimes word of honor but the Lannisters have no honor, it is known.But she never did that. Yes she made him swear, but it was Tyrion she was counting on (Who was most likely going to accept the trade). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crow Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 because she wanted her children back, after (In her view) almost her whole family was dead/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Elsa Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 because she wanted her children back, after (In her view) almost her whole family was dead/This. The things a mother will do for love.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentwanderer Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 because she was in mourning an being an irrational womanI think it was easy for Robb's bannermen to see it that way. But the truth is: Catelyn started the whole thing when she imprisoned Tyrion. Jaime told her he pushed Bran out of the window, but he didn't order to kill her child with that knife any more than his brother did, so Catelyn was only trying to fix her own mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalalOfDorne Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 I think it was easy for Robb's bannermen to see it that way. But the truth is: Catelyn started the whole thing when she imprisoned Tyrion. Jaime told her he pushed Bran out of the window, but he didn't order to kill her child with that knife any more than his brother did, so Catelyn was only trying to fix her own mistake.This is so wrong in so many ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentwanderer Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 I see Catelyn as a rational advisor just as smart as any man, so I expect her to act upon her own reasoning rather than the emotional outburst of a grieving woman (I can't underestimate her like Robb's bannermen did). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR92 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 i think this is a rather easy and understandable answer..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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