unSonofStannis Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 I think the Freys are going to side with Daenerys whenever she comes to Westeros.They won't be alive because they would have already tasted Stannis's justice HUZZAH! :fencing: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unSonofStannis Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 I don't care about logic or reason, I want the end of House Frey and Bolton. Off with their heads!Well, the younger children could be sent off to the wall or be made to join the silent sisters or the septons. If they don't have any offsprings, that is effectively the end of their house.They'll get quick deaths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unSonofStannis Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 I've never seen so many irrational people in one thread...Huzzah! :fencing: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unSonofStannis Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Then you haven't been on the forum for a very long time.Yeah I don't get why these new people call people like me irrational just because I love Stannis my King. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rishav Banka Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 I think The freys will be severely decimated and Edmure will later claim lordship over the twins as the husband of Roslin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Snow eats wild beaver Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 I won't speculate on what's going to happen, or vent my spleen, but I must say that I will be very disappointed if this world's injustice amorality and blind cruelty didn't extend to those who are not well thought of, and this is particularly true of every Frey, innocents, children and all.It would be a jarring deus ex machina for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 R'hllor's fires always need feeding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bastard of Summer Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 I dont think all the Freys should die just the guilty ones. Meaning whoever picked up a sword against a northern man or woman or to part in the actual planning. The men women and children who took no part and were not aware should not die. How ever the name they bare should no longer be considered noble (like it means something anyway ha) but all lands and monies should all go to the north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony of House Stark Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 I just want House Frey to be ended, if you get a bit squeamish about killing the little 'uns, fine, don't, just send them to the wall or something. Or maybe use them to feed KL, we know how tasty Frey pies are :devil:... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurkhal Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Yeah I don't get why these new people call people like me irrational just because I love Stannis my King.I can totally see where you are coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Edmure Tully Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 There is but one path. We kill them all.Except Roslin. Silent sisters for her. I aint Victarion, no way am I beating my wife to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruella Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 To me killing innocent women and children would be much worse than Red Wedding - that was cruel, no doubt, but at least most of the people killed were warriors and war lords, who chose to start and continue separatist war. I still feel sorry for them, many were good people who did not deserve to die at all, but helpless passive observers like most Freys are on different level of innocence. THey did not choose to put themselves in danger. I feel strong urge to goodwin this thread based on this talk about exterminating people based on their family name.I find it actually a good reflection of real life, where this kind of thinking goes on and on through centuries, leading to most problems.I suspect it's mostly failure of imagination and empathy, people need to be forced to realize that others are human beings as well, when they do, some improve slightly. I mean, there are people who don't want Jaime killed, and unlike clueless Freys, he intentionally tried to kill a little boy and hardly felt bad afterwards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Pounce FTW Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 To me killing innocent women and children would be much worse than Red Wedding - that was cruel, no doubt, but at least most of the people killed were warriors and war lords, who chose to start and continue separatist war. I still feel sorry for them, many were good people who did not deserve to die at all, but helpless passive observers like most Freys are on different level of innocence. THey did not choose to put themselves in danger. I feel strong urge to goodwin this thread based on this talk about exterminating people based on their family name.I find it actually a good reflection of real life, where this kind of thinking goes on and on through centuries, leading to most problems.I suspect it's mostly failure of imagination and empathy, people need to be forced to realize that others are human beings as well, when they do, some improve slightly. I mean, there are people who don't want Jaime killed, and unlike clueless Freys, he intentionally tried to kill a little boy and hardly felt bad afterwards!This was really well said. Excellent post. It makes me very sad that readers are so eager to have innocents pay for the decision of probably 2 or 3 Freys just because the a Stark is involved. A Stark who knowingly decided not to honor his betrothal after giving his word at a time when a man's word was really all there was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 This was really well said. Excellent post. It makes me very sad that readers are so eager to have innocents pay for the decision of probably 2 or 3 Freys just because the a Stark is involved. A Stark who knowingly decided not to honor his betrothal after giving his word at a time when a man's word was really all there was.The Frey women and children can't be held liable. But the guilt among the adult males is widely shared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 I think the Freys are going to side with Daenerys whenever she comes to Westeros.Easily their best hope. Dany will hold no grudge over the Red Wedding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin king Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 I really don't get how homocidal and revenge driven the Stark fan base is. People like the Starks because they're good and honest and noble, yet a large percentage of their fans seem to be blood thirsty maniacs who think nothing of the massace of innocent women and children all in the name of "justice"How can you be a fan of Ned, who took a firm stance that the murder of innocents was wrong no matter what the situation, and then call for the blood of Walder's entire family?Edit: To put it another way, I find it odd that most Stark fans think more like Tywin than Eddard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Pounce FTW Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 The Frey women and children can't be held liable. But the guilt among the adult males is widely shared.Right, because Walder Frey seems like the type of father that discusses his decisions with his children and asks for their input. Afterwards, he puts it to the vote, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryndenStark Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 It'd be ironic if Walder Frey's fortunate longevity comes back to bite him when he ends up out-living all of his kin; suicide would seem like a blessing at that point. He'd be sitting in his broken down hall, the Twin Towers no more. He'd become the 'Lord of the Twin Wreckage'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Right, because Walder Frey seems like the type of father that discusses his decisions with his children and asks for their input. Afterwards, he puts it to the vote, right?The movers and shakers were Lord Walder, Black Walder and Lame Lothar, but the others were each given a part to play.Perwyn, Olyvar, and Alesander Frey were innocent, so they should be spared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonathanTheBold Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 I will be disappointed if the Freys are wiped out. As a working class brit I actually admire them far more than the Starks and their supporters who believe in their divine right to rule based on their ancestors. The Starks and Tullys were shit rulers(last 300 years at least) who had the Targs to back them up, they betrayed the food chain and got the consequences.First off no lords in westiros claim their lord ship by Devine right your confusing our world with theirs, the Starks and Tullys were granted continued lordships for services to the crown. Second explain to me how the Starks were shit rulers because I'm certain your just pulling that out of your ass. and lastly what about a family that has no honor or respect for guest rights admirable and not to mention their anything but working class because there is not middle/working class your either a peasant or nobility that's it. In my opion your think westiros is our world and not and our conventions don't apply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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