wolverine Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Which is better? Thinking about watching one now that I see both are on Netflix. I watched a bit of an episode from Borgia and John Doman's sometimes accent was a little off putting. It seems strange that there are two series about the same thing.EDIT: Tried to do a site search but could find nothing similar to this topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gande51 Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 here's a review of the two series ; I haven't watched Borgia so I cant give you an opinion http://news.yahoo.com/borgias-versus-borgia-fans-showtime-series-internationally-made-184700188.html I hope it gives you an idea on which you may prefer :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zocc Arris Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Honestly I would go with the old BBC show from the 80's. It wasn't very good either, but so far the Borgia's haven't made it to the screen well in any iteration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balefired-ed Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 The Borgias is on Netflix now? I'll watch it and find out.I've watched all the episodes of Borgia and thought it was ok, but it seems they tend to ham it up to near M. Bison levels a lot, and I still have trouble thinking of Major Rawls as Rodrigo Borgia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myshkin Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 The Borgias is on Netflix now?The OP got my hopes up so I went and checked it out. Neteflix has it on DVD, but not streaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balefired-ed Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Yeah, I just saw that too.Dammit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEyedGhost Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 I haven't watched the former, but I gave up on The Borgias about halfway through season 3. I realized I just didn't care, and it's not like I stopped caring, I haven't cared all along and it was just something I felt I should be watching so I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoenixFlame Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 The Borgais >>>>>>>>> Borgia.Borgia has such a mishmash of accents and acting abilities...it's just really hard to listen to Rodrigo blathering on in an inelegant American accent amid a dozen other accents around him. And too, the plotting is just so meandering and uneven. The one redeeming thing is the fellow playing Cesare, but I dislike everyone else, and I'd still pick Arnaud over him.I connected more emotionally with The Borgias last season (which was really amazing). I still really like it this season but the character arcs aren't quite as interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relic Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Well, The Borgias could be used to cure insomnia, so it's got THAT going for it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrddin Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 I watched all of Borgias on Netflix because it was available to stream.It took me awhile to get past Dorman's very modern American accent, but after a few episodes, I was caught up in the story enough that it didn't bother me. By the middle of the season, I was hooked and loved the finale. I was very glad to see that season two was in production (which is now up on streaming).ETA: One thing about the accents on the show: if you think about it, the cardinals came from all over Europe, which matches the variety on the show. And Rodrigo was seen as an upstart from Spain. So, in a sense, our reaction to his vulgar accent matches what the others thought of him too. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolverine Posted June 4, 2013 Author Share Posted June 4, 2013 I watched the first couple episodes of Borgias late Saturday night and it has pulled me in. I think I will keep watching although I cringe nearly every time Dorman speaks.EDIT: Sorry to those that I gave the false impression of THE Borgias being able to stream on Netflix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbor Gold Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Well, The Borgias could be used to cure insomnia, so it's got THAT going for it...also, it's been cancelled. The season 3 finale on June 16 will be the final episode.http://www.thewrap.com/tv/article/showtimes-borgias-end-its-run-after-season-3-95551 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEvilKing Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 also, it's been cancelled. The season 3 finale on June 16 will be the final episode.http://www.thewrap.c...-season-3-95551What??? :( I thought 4 seasons would have been fine, 3 seems too early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 And it sounds like Jordan's floating a two-hour wrap-up movie seems to have gone nowhere, since he's now talking of the finale as a good conclusion. Shame, the show really grew on me. Holliday Granger is ridiculously gorgeous, the production values are surprisingly high (imagine, a show in which main characters might got through as many as a dozen costumes in a season!), Jeremy Irons is obviously enjoying himself, the convolutions of the current political storyline are quite good, and François Arnaud is leaps and bounds better than he was in the first season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrddin Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Is the story at a place historically where it makes sense to stop?This has been on my list to watch for awhile, but if it ends without a real ending, I'll forego it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerys Blackfyre Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 I'm not familiar with Borgias, but I really enjoyed season 1 of Borgia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoenixFlame Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 I'm kind of curling up and sobbing over The Borgias getting cancelled. Like, wow, that hit me almost as hard as if GOT had gotten cancelled. Thank the effin' Lord I have Hannibal now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolverine Posted July 11, 2013 Author Share Posted July 11, 2013 Despite the horrendous accents and non-accents in Borgia and the occasional overacting, I have found the first season terribly addicting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolverine Posted August 7, 2013 Author Share Posted August 7, 2013 I'm not familiar with Borgias, but I really enjoyed season 1 of BorgiaWatched both seasons and I am hooked. I see there is a third season being made right now (I am talking about Borgia, not The Borgias). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humbler_than_anyone Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I'm trying to give Borgia a go at the moment but it's kinda hard after falling badly for The Borgias. As so many before me wrote I'm disturbed by one particular accent/cast decission. For me it's not the Pope though but Lucrezia! I feel like I should support her because she's German as me but I find it absolutely unbearable listening to her. She stumbles over her lines and overacts so much I want to close my eyes and ears whenever she's on screen. It's ridiculous after having watched wonderfully and perfect Holliday Grainger sharing hot on- screen chemistry with an equally stunning Cesare. And now this! Though I can't say that I dislike "Borgia" Cesare. It's an complete other approach on the character but one I find interessting. So yeah... after having watched a few episodes of Borgia, The Borgia wins hands down for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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