Inquisitor Glokta Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Hi first off all, i know this is total crackpot and will most certainly never happen. But while thinking about the pink letter and it's possible author it occured to me, that Ramsay could manouver himself in to a very bad spot.I will quote from the Theon sample, for this reason i made the thread in the TWOW section, so i can save myself a few spoilertags.Let's get started:We know Theon is with Stannis and that Ramsay is hunting for his bride and Reek."Lord Ramsay," Theon hissed. "The son, not the father. You must not let him take him. Roose... Roose is safe within the walls of Winterfell with his fat new wife. Ramsay is coming."When Ramsay goes for a nice weekend hunting trip, he usually brings his bitches, to give him an advantage. Dogs need a source of smell and since Arya Stark is more important then Reek, it's fair to assume he would give them something of hers to sniff.But where is fArya? She is on her way from Stannis camp (which lies somewhere between WF and Deepwood) to the CB. Ser Justin put one hand on his sword hilt. "On my honor as a knight, you have my word." "Oh, and take the Stark girl with you. Deliver her to Lord Commander Snow on your way to Eastwatch." Stannis tapped the parchment that lay before him. "A true king pays his debts."So fArya is on her way to CB with the Iron Banker, who will be very important for the theory in a few moments.Now that we got the ingredients, let's look at the possible outcome:What if, by some mischance Ramsay's bitches catch Jeynes scent and he manages to take the group captive. He would probably outright kill all the men, while making a sport out of it. I do not think that Ramsay Snow has any idea what the Iron Bank is and what they can do.It is also likely, that in such a case, they could find out, if Ramsay mysteriously got his bride back and a few black brothers vanish south off the wall (keep in mind that the NW wants some money from the bank too).So how could all this possibly lead to Arya killing Ramsay?The Iron Bank of Bravos should have good connections to the Faceless Men (of Bravos ;)). If the IB would need a target in Westeros more specifically WF killed, the most logical joyce or the FM would be Arya and she also would fullfil the 'not know the target' clause.-She knows the castle like the back of her hand, since she grew up there afterall.-She doesn't know RamsayThis would be an excellent way to her right back into the story, where her assassin skills could be used for the war of dawn.Any thoughts from you gals and guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blutrabe Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 But hasn't Arya already been sent back to Westeros at the end of ADWD? My memory is eluding me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayan Tandon Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Tooo Toooo random my friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightflyingmouse Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 But hasn't Arya already been sent back to Westeros at the end of ADWD? My memory is eluding me.She's in Braavos about to get a "new face", a pretty one. No details about her next hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravity of Dragons Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Ramsay is not important enough to have a Faceless Man assassinate him. In my opinion, he doesn't deserve such high profile hit man. But he'll die soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red fork Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 I was about to call this crackpot... but! If Ramsay in his usual psycho way offs an emissary of the Iron Bank, then I'm pretty sure they would want to make an example of him. The kind of example that is heard loud and clear across westeros and essos. a painful, unpleasant, drawn-out example - precisely the kind of thing Ramsay so richly deservesI'm in for this :) There is a wrinkle though - Justin Massey ain't gonna make it to essos, therefore no swellswords for stannis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis the Menace Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Arya is going to Izembaro.... Idk if that is a place or a person to learn from, but thats what it says im pretty sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanml82 Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 The FM would think Arya is very likely to desert them if they send her to Winterfell.Of course, that might be the reason they send her to Winterfell (with Izembaro to stab her in the back if she defects. She has gone too deep into the FM and knows quite a lot by now) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitering Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Yep, once she got her face I think, she was in there. Prior to that moment, I think the KOM was sincere in saying they would find her a place they thought she could be happy if she chose to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimZipCode Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 She's in Braavos about to get a "new face", a pretty one. No details about her next hit.Not a new face, her old face. That's the way they talk – she's going to get a face as pretty as Arya's. Her own face back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Killer Snark Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 She'd need someone to make the trip to Braavos and make an offer to The House of Black and White first. Highly improbable and too coincidental, so I'd say no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayura Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 I didn't think the person needed to be in Braavos in the HOBAW to ask for the gift of the Many Faced God? I thought the person could be anywhere as long as a FM heard their prayer.I have already thought about Ramsay Bolton as well, it seems quite unlikely, but he is someone Arya doesn't know and I don't doubt Theon Greyjoy has wished him dead more than once. The price for Theon's wish could be his own life, hence ending the Reek/Ramsay story line and bringing Arya in the centre of action.It is true that Arya is only a child at the beginning of her training, but I believe sending her to a place she knows could be the ultimate part of her training: will she go back to being Arya Stark ot will she truly embrace the FM philosophy?Anyway, Ramsay being Arya's target would be pretty ace in any case, even if, at the moment, it seems far-fetched Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macho Hand of the King Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Too "storybook". Can't see GRRM going that route. I'm also not sold that Arya's "purpose" is that of an assassin. I understand this is the path she is walking, but I see her story being an arduous journey that is constantly filled with obstacles, reroutes, and destinations just out of reach. "It will be bittersweet" said Marting of the ending. I think Arya's will be one of the bitter, sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Persicaria Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 This will probably go in the I wish category, you know the things you want to happen but know never will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold II Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 More likely and simpler outcome -Jeyne ends up in Bravos. Best place for her really.Arya completes her training in/with Izembaro, then returns to Bravos. (lets say she is sent to kill Illyrio)Jeyne finds out about the Faceless Men.She goes and prays that someone kills Ramsay. They take her life (she was pretty messed up so its a mercy)They send Arya to Winterfell to kill Ramsay Bolton.Arya does the deed, but abandons the FM.EDIT - This would take all of TWOW to play out, but would wrap up the Bravos story lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isiman Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 She'd need someone to make the trip to Braavos and make an offer to The House of Black and White first. Highly improbable and too coincidental, so I'd say no. There is nothing too coincidental after Tyrion and Penny met again in Volantis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Spark of House Spark Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 How would the Iron bank find out that Ramsey had killed their emmissary. There are lots of ways a man could accidentaly die with winter storms on the sea wildings coming over the wall, the others marching south, Pirate kings, the ironborn on the rampage. It wouldn't be unusual to just disappear on as long a journey as this in the world they are living in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tini Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 I don't see Jeyne Poole requesting help to kill Ramsay. Just like Theon, she is so broken that she thinks Ramsay untouchable. Their only fear is that they might be returned to Ramsay once more. Well, maybe not her only fear: Theon warned her that even worse would happen to her if anybody ever found out that she is not Arya Stark.If she turns to the FM for help, she'll be looking for safety, for the ultimate escape - a peaceful suicide. That is what the FM offer at the Temple of Black and White, and many people take them up on that offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Dayne Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 I never liked this theory that the FM have connections with the IB just because they're geographically close.I could argue that all the money the FM get go to the bank, but that's an even longer shot lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The True Queen Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 If she kills him, it will be after she has been killed and warged completely into Nymeria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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