The Dovakhiin Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Raping Elia was not necessary.Ser Gregor is never necessary. But the extermination of the targs was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Wat Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 All we know about that is that tywin order the deaths of the remaining targs. Why is it a tragedy when noble children with a claim on a newly usurped throne who would probably have been used to start another mega war get kill but not so much as a mention is given out to numberless common children who will suffer should their claim be pressed?Bottom line is it was very much necessary.Yes, let's kill all the children! And now that we're at it, let's rape their mother as well! Yeah that seems like fun.The Targaryen were already defeated, what's the point? Were they afraid of retaliations from the hands of a 10 year old? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictarion Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Ser Gregor is is never necessary. But the extermination of the targs was.They could have been held as hostages, or exiled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melanniemunoz Posted June 23, 2013 Author Share Posted June 23, 2013 Hey, welcome to the board. :cheers:This is one of the most vehemently argued topics I have come across in my short time on this forum. I don't know if you have done a search on Dany as a ruler but there are pages and pages of discussion (some very heated) on this topic.Thanks, and I will. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dovakhiin Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Bigger armies don't always work in war. She needs well trained and experienced strong soilders who can make a conquest simple. But if she comes over when Westeros is week, then she could end up messing it up more.And what happens after she wins the throne and later dies of old age? Thats my original question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMysteriousOne Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Go on then name a plausible alternative.Most of the suggestions that I could make right now would not be foolproof, but that doesn't mean that it was necessary to have them killed. Let's say that hypothetically that Elia and her children were sent to live in the Free Cities, in exile. I'm pretty sure that even if Aegon grew up and like Viserys, wanted to reclaim the IT for House Targaryen, it wouldn't work. Dorne would be their only ally and Dorne barely has enough men to fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaarioKnowsBest Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 And what happens after she wins the throne and later dies of old age? Thats my original question.we dont know that she wont/cant have kids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dovakhiin Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 They could have been held as hostages, or exiled.Extremely dangerous to hold them hostage. Exile? Urm isnt that just dany? We all know how thats working out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictarion Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 we dont know that she wont/cant have kidsI think she probably can, of course MMD would want to hurt her by telling her otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictarion Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Extremely dangerous to hold them hostage. Exile? Urm isnt that just dany? We all know how thats working out.The keeping of hostages to ensure good behavior is highly common in Westeros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dovakhiin Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Most of the suggestions that I could make right now would not be foolproof, but that doesn't mean that it was necessary to have them killed. Let's say that hypothetically that Elia and her children were sent to live in the Free Cities, in exile. I'm pretty sure that even if Aegon grew up and like Viserys, wanted to reclaim the IT for House Targaryen, it wouldn't work. Dorne would be their only ally and Dorne barely has enough men to fight.Well do you know what is foolproof dead children. I'd like to see them claim the throne.( excludes Faegon). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dovakhiin Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 The keeping of hostages to ensure good behavior is highly common in Westeros.Theon Greyjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMysteriousOne Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Extremely dangerous to hold them hostage. Exile? Urm isnt that just dany? We all know how thats working out.Dany is different, she is the Mother of Dragons and it was her destiny to have them. If it was any other Targaryen without the chance of getting a dragon, I'm fairly sure that they'd fail to reclaim the IT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melanniemunoz Posted June 23, 2013 Author Share Posted June 23, 2013 And what happens after she wins the throne and later dies of old age? Thats my original question.The Targaryen line through Daenerys won't happen. Aegon might conquer the throne, and her conquest wouldn't of meant anything. Maybe another Queen or secret Targaryen will conquer the Throne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMysteriousOne Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Well do you know what is foolproof dead children. I'd like to see them claim the throne.( excludes Faegon).But it was not necessary. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictarion Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Theon Greyjoy.And the reason that didn't work out was Robb released him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night'sQueen Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Thanks, and I will. :)This thread is more civilized than most of the other Dany as a Ruler threads I have seen so far. But it's early yet... ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dovakhiin Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Dany is different, she is the Mother of Dragons and it was her destiny to have them. If it was any other Targaryen without the chance of getting a dragon, I'm fairly sure that they'd fail to reclaim the IT. Why give them such a chance? Do you know whats better than winning a war? Stopping one from taking place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melanniemunoz Posted June 23, 2013 Author Share Posted June 23, 2013 But it was not necessary. :)They could have been kept in a dungeon or somewhere far away where there was no chance of them rebelling or learning or their identity. A lord or lady, a peasant paid richly to raise the children as their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melanniemunoz Posted June 23, 2013 Author Share Posted June 23, 2013 This thread is more civilized than most of the other Dany as a Ruler threads I have seen so far. But it's early yet... ;)Lol, really? What have you seen on these other forums? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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