straits Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Good on you, RH, and thanks for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sci-2 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Thanks for sharing that Robin.Definitely keep posting, we need you on the gadfly team to keep us yuppie liberals from disappearing into a latte fueled coma.;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Of House Hill Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 I'm surprised by the reaction because I don't think bravery entered into it. I just felt that if I was to have any valid input into the subject of this thread, it had to be free of pretense. I won't lie. I didn't get much sleep last night, my body appears to be in fight or flight mode and my blood pressure is up ten points, this morning. Don't worry, I'm still the same person whose social and political views make people cringe, though I might no longer have the need to be as, "over the top", in presenting them. I suppose I'll have to replace the, "Ser", in my forum name, to eliminate any remaining confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinDonner Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 That's a point, is Ser a gender-neutral honorific? I had half a thought that Brienne and Dacey were "ser"s, but someone with more encyclopedic knowledge than I will have to answer that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Of House Hill Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 I'm not sure of that, so I just made myself, noble. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lany Freelove Cassandra Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 That's a point, is Ser a gender-neutral honorific? I had half a thought that Brienne and Dacey were "ser"s, but someone with more encyclopedic knowledge than I will have to answer that one.Don't know how he meant it in the books, but when George knighted us women in LA he asked if we preferred "Ser" or "Dame". Three of us went with Ser, and I have used it in my name off and on since then.Robin, I hope you know you don't have much to fear from this board, at least not on this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xray the Enforcer Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 I'm not sure of that, so I just made myself, noble. :rolleyes:Bah, why stop there? Set yourself up as a deity. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 R'hollor Robin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Of House Hill Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Robin, I hope you know you don't have much to fear from this board, at least not on this issue.Fairly sure. Most of my discomfort comes from both my original career training and the best available information from when I made my transition. Both those things scream, "reveal nothing", at me.Bah, why stop there? Set yourself up as a deity. :PI did...in the, "If You Were God", thread.R'hollor Robin?Way too pale to be a Red God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Awesome. Just awesome. Thanks, Robin. :)I would like to add that people in many different situations put themselves in a defensive shell or into flight mode for their own protection. I know that it may not seem like a desire to escape from an event in one's past sounds like a situation of equivalent gravity, in all likelihood it's not, to changing one's gender, but to the individual who goes that route whatever triggered it may have been just as important to them.I tried to write that as clearly as possible. I guess what I'm trying to say is that many of us have been through events that put us in the same mode. The reaction may or may not have lasted as long, but there is probably more empathy out there than you are aware of. Throughout my career I have been in jobs where people came to me and confided stories from their lives that were pretty dramatic, and I've been through an event or two in my own life. You just can't always tell from looking at your neighbour, even friends, what they have lived through or are currently coping with.Back to the earlier discussion, my friend's former son is at the end stages of transitioning to being a daughter. (Surgery is looming.) I think I've caught myself calling her a he only once this past year, it just slipped out, but I've known her all my life and while the original imprint has almost faded out of my brain, something remains. Last week I told her she had become a lovely girl, and we had a discussion about the changes in her confidence levels. She used to hide herself a lot, she was very scared about meeting people, she was frightened of judgement, I believe, but as her body has transformed she has become more relaxed, more comfortable, and in a great frame of mind for the surgery she will have to undergo. She's 24, and has actively pursued this course since high school, and though surrounded by a loving family and a strong network of LGBT friends, things haven't been easy (sorry, understatement of the thread, right?). I can imagine how hard it would be without that support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Of House Hill Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Personal pronoun errors are inevitable when they pertain to someone you've known all your life. It is a good thing that she is able to relax. It is something I never learned to do, though most people couldn't tell. I could tell some stories, but I'm trying not to derail this thread any further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salome the Persian Witch Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 I would say that your personal stories are the farthest thing from derailment, Robin, but conversely are right on topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Of House Hill Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 In that case, is there anyone here that remembers The Duchess in NY's West Village? If by any chance, your were there the evening NY's Alcoholic Beverage Commission came in and removed all the liquor, we might have met. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galactus Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 I wonder if I should mention that I actually had a "Wait, is Robin Hill a man or a woman?" discussion with another boarder. (I think we leaned towards woman but weren't sure) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Of House Hill Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 There were several posts like that and one fairly recently that was sure I was a lesbian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinDonner Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Are you kidding? That has been one of the most enigmatic board mysteries ever since she joined up and refused to confirm either way. And now I sorta feel bad about that. Oh well. :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galactus Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 I think it's the fault of the "Robin". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Of House Hill Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Well, if I'd indicated I was male, it would have offended me, no end. If I indicated female, it was closer to identifying me, which I was trying to avoid. By selecting not telling, I realized it would raise questions, especially in conjunction with an androgynous name like Robin. I didn't think it would be a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sci-2 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 In that case, is there anyone here that remembers The Duchess in NY's West Village? If by any chance, your were there the evening NY's Alcoholic Beverage Commission came in and removed all the liquor, we might have met.Why did they remove the liquor?Were they trying to shut down the establishment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xray the Enforcer Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Yes. NYC Police loved to raid gay and lesbian bars for purported infractions of their liquor licenses (or disorderly conduct) as a pretense to shutting them down purely because of the gay clientele. I mean, you've read about Stonewall, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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