Paxter Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Bresnan out for the final test, guess this brings Finn back into the equation? Not sure that Onions would be that effective at The Oval. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltaran Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Onions is injured anyway. It'll be Finn or Tremlett, I guess - although I suppose they might decide to play two spinners and give Monty a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The BlackBear Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Mightn't they be afraid that Monty'll spray wee all over the fast bowlers' short deliveries?It's called 'stream bowling'Anyone?Ok I'll leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stubby Posted August 16, 2013 Author Share Posted August 16, 2013 If he really puts some effort into it it does more than just dribble down leg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alester Florent Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 I'd have thought Tremlett is the next cab off the rank. I doubt they'll bring Finn back in at this stage and it's Tremlett's home ground. Onions is injured anyway, but even if fit, Tremlett's previously appeared to be ahead of Onions in the queue when fit, and performed well against Australia in the last tour too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herb Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Tremlett will play. I've got no complaints with that either, think he should be in the team all the time anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paxter Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Tremlett would also be a useful one to have in Australia - I remember him replacing Broad on the last tour and doing a more than serviceable job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamjm Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 I'd have thought Tremlett is the next cab off the rank. I doubt they'll bring Finn back in at this stage and it's Tremlett's home ground. Onions is injured anyway, but even if fit, Tremlett's previously appeared to be ahead of Onions in the queue when fit, and performed well against Australia in the last tour too.I agree it's likely to be Tremlett, it's a good opportunity to see what form he is in before the Australia tour.I wonder if Bresnan will end up missing the Australia tour, back injuries can take players out for a long time. If so then that would leave Anderson, Broad, Tremlett, Onions and Finn as the seam bowlers, I'm guessing they'd probably want another bowler as well but I'm not sure who they'd pick, probably someone without much international experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alester Florent Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 I wonder if Bresnan will end up missing the Australia tour, back injuries can take players out for a long time. If so then that would leave Anderson, Broad, Tremlett, Onions and Finn as the seam bowlers, I'm guessing they'd probably want another bowler as well but I'm not sure who they'd pick, probably someone without much international experience.I wouldn't be surprised to see Dernbach or Woakes in the touring squad, although whether they'll get a game is another question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamjm Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 I wouldn't be surprised to see Dernbach or Woakes in the touring squad, although whether they'll get a game is another question.I'd be surprised if it was Dernbach since he seems to have been classed as a limited-over specialist. I think Woakes has been on tour with the Test team in the past, although he hasn't played in a Test, so he's more likely. However, I'm yet to be convinced that he's a good enough bowler for Test cricket, he medium pace bowling doesn't seem threatening enough.I think former Ireland player Boyd Rankin might be more likely, they do seem to like tall pacemen at the moment and since Tremlett's a bit injury prone they might like to have a similar bowler in reserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xray the Enforcer Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 No, she was dressed as the honey monster.:lol:Mr. X and I had a wonderful time at Day 4 of Durham. We started the day off right with black pudding for breakfast and got a pint of ale as soon as we set foot on the grounds. We also ended up near the broadcast booth, so we got to see Warne (what a weird-looking motherfucker), Ian Botham, Nasser Hussain, and a couple of others up close while they stood on the grounds and nattered about...whatever it is they natter about for TV. I was gutted to learn from Hereward that Bumble was not in attendance. I would have jumped the guard rails and strangled the honey monster just for the opportunity to give that man a hug. I was witness to pretty much every emotion Hereward is still capable of feeling with that calcified cinder he calls a heart: Muted joy, nervousness, apocalyptic despair, elation, triumph. He muttered very dark things around 4:00pm that day. After the victory (and the shrieking), we retired to Hereward's private brewery and drank to the health of cricket fans everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stubby Posted August 19, 2013 Author Share Posted August 19, 2013 Good to see that one of the Aussies took the opportunity to make a big score during the tour match to demand selection.Oh wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeor Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I'll be interested to see how much the selectors stick with the current lineup in the Australian leg.I'm not super-convinced Khawaja is the right man for No. 3 at the current time, but maybe he just needs a breakout score. Smith has also faded a bit after having a decent start to the series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamjm Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 The England team for the final Test was probably most interesting for the players who probably won't be playing. The inclusion of Chris Woakes suggests he might be one of the back-up seamers for the Australian tour, although I'm not quite sure why he's in the Oval squad since Tremlett and Finn would seem the most likely options to replace Bresnan. I suppose they could be considering playing him as an all-rounder at 7 if they select two spinners, although given the inconsistency of the batting line-up I think that would be unwise. Simon Kerrigan's inclusion as the second spinner might be a reaction to Monty's recent antics, it'll be interesting to see whether he's also the second spinner for the tour.I'll be interested to see how much the selectors stick with the current lineup in the Australian leg.I'm not super-convinced Khawaja is the right man for No. 3 at the current time, but maybe he just needs a breakout score. Smith has also faded a bit after having a decent start to the series.I think out of the batsmen only Rogers, Warner and Clarke are really guaranteed to be in the team for the Australia tour. However, I'm not sure how many alternatives are really available at the moment, so some of the others might get another chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereward Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 And Essex sign Monty! This could have happened earlier if he'd urinated on a bouncer before. He'll fit right in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alester Florent Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Simon Kerrigan's inclusion as the second spinner might be a reaction to Monty's recent antics, it'll be interesting to see whether he's also the second spinner for the tour.Vaughan was saying in one of the earlier Tests (with a view to Old Trafford, I think, so before the bouncer incident) that the general view seemed to be that Monty was the past of England cricket rather than the future, and that he'd expect to see different spinners in the squad if more were included at all. I don't know what the story is there, of course, but the bouncer incident might not have had anything to do with Monty's antics... or perhaps the incident was partly "in response" to a message being passed on, Compton-style, that he likely wouldn't be selected again if there were younger alternatives available - who knows?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xray the Enforcer Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Justice for Monty! :commie: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alester Florent Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Some more weird selections from Australia for the morrow. Faulkner probably deserves a go, but Watto at 3? I suppose they've tried him everywhere else, and by sticking their most underachieving batsman in their most underachieving batting spot makes a sort of nihilistic sense.This seems to mean that Australia are going into the next Test with four specialist batsmen, plus Steve Smith and Shane Watson as (alleged) batting all-rounders, and Brad Haddin and James Faulkner as other-discipline all-rounders. Hmm. I suppose that's not a million miles off the preferred England configuration (five batsmen, two bowling all-rounders, a wicketkeeper-batsman, and whatever Jonny Bairstow is supposed to be) but it still looks rather fragile. I suppose it qualifies as "positive" selection: backing the bowlers to out-bowl England against underperforming batsmen, rather than trying to shore up the batting and then lose anyway. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out.Unfortunately, I have an exam tomorrow so won't be at the Oval :tantrum: . Hopefully the game will go on long enough that I'll get to use my Day 5 ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brAnthelAstgreenseer Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Dravid speaking about tests.Great speech!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alester Florent Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 What a great man Rahul Dravid is. I hope for the sake of the future of the sport - and the species - that he finds a career in administration or politics or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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