Irelands Gemstone Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 I dont think its ever specified what the characters believe awaits them after death, George mentions that The Faith of the Seven is partially a jab at Catholicism.A lot of characters, even those who worship the old gods come out with the phrase ''Seven hells'' Jon Snow, Eddard Stark (and old Rob for the seven) which implies that both, or one of the religions believe in a system of seven hells, perhaps a bit along the lines of the Divine Comedy (Dantes Inferno) It seems like a gaping hole in the logic of someone who has spent a great deal of effort designing a great set of religions.I would assume all of the major religions have reincarnation as a central theme, as they are all modeled on real life religions, and all of the major religions (the big 5) are big because they focus on some form of existence after death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dornishman's Wife Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 I dont think its ever specified what the characters believe awaits them after deathIt has been stated that the Faith of the 7 preaches the existence of 7 heavens and 7 hells (depending on how you behaved in life, one would assume).The CotF have a pantheistic become-one-with-nature-and-the-trees-and-the-roots afterlife which probably has been incorporated into human beliefs of the worshipers of the Old Gods.The Drowned Faith teaches about feasting in the Drowned God's halls (something Valhalla like).The Dothraki believe you can be gathered for the starry khalassar and ride across the sky, but if you don't make the cut, you'll be reincarnated again.I think the only major religion whose the afterlife is unknown to us is the Red Faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Monkey Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 The fact that they mention Hells all the time actually reminds me of Buddhism and ancient Chinese beliefs of Diyu, where as far as I understand it all souls eventually go in some form of hell that each have different characteristics depending on the soul in question. When Tyrion talks about his father, for instance, he sometimes muses something along the lines of, "I hope he is in some nice cold hell" which implies that there are different potential hells and that at least one of them could be a cold one.As far as the references go, I always just assumed that it was because of the same reason why atheists say things like, "Oh my God,"; it just became part of the Common Tongue after centuries of cultural osmosis, even if the speakers don't necessarily share the faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DraculaAD1972 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 It has been stated that the Faith of the 7 preaches the existence of 7 heavens and 7 hells (depending on how you behaved in life, one would assume).The CotF have a pantheistic become-one-with-nature-and-the-trees-and-the-roots afterlife which probably has been incorporated into human beliefs of the worshipers of the Old Gods.The Drowned Faith teaches about feasting in the Drowned God's halls (something Valhalla like).The Dothraki believe you can be gathered for the starry khalassar and ride across the sky, but if you don't make the cut, you'll be reincarnated again.I think the only major religion whose the afterlife is unknown to us is the Red Faith.Nice summary of Westeros metaphysics. Mel says death by fire is purest death and I think Vic mentions that also, it purifies the soul, some kind of transformation of living being into pure spirit, probably an abstract, sterile monotheistic Paradise. I prefer the Drowned Gods watery halls where you can eat, drink and be merry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irelands Gemstone Posted August 1, 2013 Author Share Posted August 1, 2013 It does sum it up, I think Tyrions might be a figure of speech about Tywin in a nice cold hell however, I really do think George has overlooked afterlife in the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindchap Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 and Eddard Stark dreamed of a frozen hell reserved for the Starks of WinterfellMakes me curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frey family reunion Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Maester Aemon to Sam: "Death should hold no fear for a man as old as me, but it does. Isn't that silly? It is always dark where I am, so why should I fear the darkness? Yet I cannot help but wonder what will follow, when the last warmth leaves my body. Will I feast forever in the Father's golden hall as the septons say? Will I talk with Egg again, find Dareon whole and happy, hear my sisters singing to their children? What if the horselords have the truth of it? Will I ride though the night sky forever on a stallion made of flame? Or must I return to this vale of sorrow? Who can say, truly? Who has been beyond the wall of death to see? Only the wights, and we know what they are like. We know." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winds of Winter blow cold Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Wights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindchap Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Maester Aemon to Sam:I love the fact that he left Aerion completely out. Guess we all know where he ended up. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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