Magic 8 Ball Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 You must be reading Twilight books for your vampire rules. Explain how Roose reproduced. Even at that, most vampire lore has vampires as once being human and sterile.Hmmm... Now if only we had evidence of GRRM writing books with fertile vampires before...See what I just did there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bastard of Summer Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Agreed, The Roose is immortal, but not a vampire. He's really Nicholas Flammel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozentree Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 How would nobody notice? Does he just withdraw into Dreadfort every 50 years until everyone who recognizes his face is dead?No, he is clearly a faceless man, when he gets too old, he fakes his death, then kills his heir, steals their face and continues to rule under their identity! That also explains the flaying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dragon King Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 How would nobody notice? Does he just withdraw into Dreadfort every 50 years until everyone who recognizes his face is dead?No, he is clearly a faceless man, when he gets too old, he fakes his death, then kills his heir, steals their face and continues to rule under their identity! That also explains the flaying.Interesting, but are faceless men immortal? How does he keep going? What's the deal with the leeches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morienthar Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 The Blood is the Life....muhuhahahaha!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brave_Companion Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Except he enjoys feeding his blood to leeches not quite classic Vampire behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erkan12 Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 They should drink the blood not flayed the skin :DSecondly, how Roose is walking on the daylight ? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frey family reunion Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I'm not sure about Roose being a vampire, but Martin puts at least one nod to Bram Stoker in the map of Westeros. The body of water right next to the Neck of Westeros, is called the Bite. And in the Bite are three islands called the Sisters. In Bram Stoker's novel, Dracula, the three female vampires that live in Dracula's castle, are only referred to as the Sisters.Also the name of Dracula's castle? Castle Bran.The name of the ship that brings Dracula to England where it crashes is the Demeter. Demeter is the Greek goddess of the Harvest. The name of the ship that brings Illyrio to Westeros is called the Bountiful Harvest. The Bountiful Harvest also wrecks during Saan's trip around Westeros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Monkey Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 They should drink the blood not flayed the skin :DSecondly, how Roose is walking on the daylight ? :D The leeches that he uses drain enough of the vampire blood from him that he's temporarily able to withstand sunlight.And Cersei..... well she is still a bitch.Not bitch. Witch. The fact that Cersei kills Robert with a pig is a clear reference to Circe transforming men into pigs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 They should drink the blood not flayed the skin :DSecondly, how Roose is walking on the daylight ? :DTraditional vampires, according to folklore, had no problem being out in the daylight. Even in earlier fiction - like Bram Stoker's Dracula - they were only slightly weakened, but never killed.This idea that vampires died when hit by sunlight started with the rip-off of Dracula called Nosferatu, where the creator had to do something different in order to avoid getting sued.So if Roose is a traditional vampire, he wouldn't have a problem walking around in the sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommens Cat Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Hmmm... Now if only we had evidence of GRRM writing books with fertile vampires before...See what I just did there?Like this.I have always believed roose is immortal. He (as stated) has participated in numerous wars throughout history, has no fear, or shows no fear, and is seemingly uninterested in the game of thrones. He does care about one throne though. In wf, where he will usher in the others for LN2.0. Or so I believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steely94 Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Even more worryingly than having a Vampire ruling half a continent is (1): Has Ramsay inherited ANYTHING of his powers? Because that would be Bad. Very Bad. And (2): Dracula seemed to have power over Wolves. Hopefully not Direwolves or else the Starks are in trouble. However, there's a solution. See Carpe Jugulum. 'I was in the blood, Count. I ain't been Vampired. You've been Starked Bloodravened Weatherwaxed.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aderyn the Sly Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 His face was clean shaved, smooth skinned, ordinary, not handsome but not quite plain. Though Roose had been in battles, he bore no scars. Though well past forty, he was as yet unwrinkled, with scarce a line to tell of the passage of time. His lips were so thin that when he pressed them together they seem to vanish altogether.There was an agelessness to about him, a stillness; on Roose Bolton’s face, rage and joy looked much the same. All he and Ramsay had in common were their eyes. His eyes are ice. Reek wondered if he ever cried. If so, do the tears feel cold upon his cheeks?Once, a boy called Theon Greyjoy had enjoyed tweaking Bolton as they sat at council with Robb Stark, mocking his soft voice and making japes about leeches. He must have been mad. This is no man to jape with. You had only to look at Bolton to know that he had more cruelty in his pinky toe than all the Freys combined.I don't know if the concept of "vampire" exists in the ASOIAF world, but I deffinitly think there is some blood magic going on here. No scars/blemishes or even wrinkles on his skin? Deffinitly odd considering every other male in the story who is of fighting age (and some who aren't) have scars/pox marks/deformaties of some kind. And Roose faught in both RR and Wo5K. Maybe his practicing bloodmagic learned form the CotF or from Essos that grants him longlivity, which is why is unconcerned about sireing an heir before Ramsey inheits - he will outlive him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sordelor Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I love this theory. Probobly not entirely true, but he may be a creature looking like vampire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dragon King Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 How would nobody notice? Does he just withdraw into Dreadfort every 50 years until everyone who recognizes his face is dead?No, he is clearly a faceless man, when he gets too old, he fakes his death, then kills his heir, steals their face and continues to rule under their identity! That also explains the flaying.Also, House Bolton rebelled a few times in their history and have always had a penchant for for flaying, especially the Starks, that makes a TON of sense if it's always the same Bolton who's doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kahl Trollo Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Hmmmm... well Dracula is 'son of Dracul.'Vlad III's father, Vlad II Dracul received that title on his name as a member of 'The Order of the Dragon'O-M-F-GSEKRAT TARGARYEN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kahl Trollo Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Even more worryingly than having a Vampire ruling half a continent is (1): Has Ramsay inherited ANYTHING of his powers? Because that would be Bad. Very Bad. And (2): Dracula seemed to have power over Wolves. Hopefully not Direwolves or else the Starks are in trouble.However, there's a solution. See Carpe Jugulum.'I was in the blood, Count. I ain't been Vampired. You've been Starked Bloodravened Weatherwaxed.'Luckily he has several weaknesses, rivers would slow him down a bit - and of course there's always:'It's Roose... can I come in?''No!''Fuck....' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eli Stark Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 So DoS is going to involve a time traveling Monster Squad from the eighties who's little sister tags along only to find out that Gregor is just tragically misunderstood? I can dig it. :)Robb Stark 's got nards!?!?!?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindchap Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Robb Stark 's got nards!?!?!?!?!?Nice to know I'm not the only old guy on here. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Lannister Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Ran is pretty comfortable with debunking the Supernatural!Roose theories, so I'm not too sold on the idea. But Roose being immortal would be fucking awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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