Kuther2000 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Why is Varys so nice to Robert's bastards? I mean I can understand Varys helping to get Gendry a job because that gives him a stable life and is useful so that Varys will always know where to find him. But what about sending Edric Storm presents is that really necessary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkStark Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 What would Jaime think of Mance, Jon's, and Halfhand swords skill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morienthar Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Why is Varys so nice to Robert's bastards? I mean I can understand Varys helping to get Gendry a job because that gives him a stable life and is useful so that Varys will always know where to find him. But what about sending Edric Storm presents is that really necessary?Maybe he has a thing for Bastards....He might be a Blackfyre after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morienthar Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 What would Jaime think of Mance, Jon's, and Halfhand swords skill?Same thing he thinks of all others.I can beat 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindchap Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 I think the Andals were Fair. They looked more like the Lannisters. The first men were darker. They looked more like the Starks. But essentially two waves of human immigrants. http://awoiaf.wester...ndex.php/AndalsIsn't really mentioned in the books the Rhoynar seem to the only ones with heavy physical differences.Thanks, that's what I was thinking I just wanted to make sure I hadn't overlooked something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Why is Varys so nice to Robert's bastards? I mean I can understand Varys helping to get Gendry a job because that gives him a stable life and is useful so that Varys will always know where to find him. But what about sending Edric Storm presents is that really necessary?This is not a small question. Here's one thread: There are a few others. And the point usually comes up whenever Varys's motivation is discussed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrgirl Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Where exactly was Valyria located before the Doom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 When did House Targaryen take a three-headed dragon as its sigil? Was it before Aegon I & his sisters/wives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 When Aegon I invaded Westeros did he habe more than 3 dragons or just three? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 When did House Targaryen take a three-headed dragon as its sigil? Was it before Aegon I & his sisters/wives?I think it was based on Aegon and his sister-wives. I can't recall the quote but the concordance says:The three-headed dragon, red, on black is the emblem of House Targaryen. It represents Aegon and his two sisters (I: 36, 692)When Aegon I invaded Westeros did he habe more than 3 dragons or just three?Just the three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lissa Nymeros Martell Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Where exactly was Valyria located before the Doom?In the exact same spot. Except there wasn't a huge crater there. When did House Targaryen take a three-headed dragon as its sigil? Was it before Aegon I & his sisters/wives?It was After/During the invasion. When Aegon I invaded Westeros did he habe more than 3 dragons or just three?The Targaryens came from Valyria with 3 dragons. 2 died on dragonstone but 2 more were born. He invaded Westeros with those 3. Question of my own: At their height, how many dragons were ever alive at one time? Was it always 3? Followup: Are all dragon skulls accounted for in KL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindchap Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Where exactly was Valyria located before the Doom?Actually looking at the Lands map the city of Valyria is still there, there's just a huge crater cutting it off from mainland Essos forming the Smoking Sea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadside Rose Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Dressed as he was, he made a comic sight. His doublet was divided down the middle; the left side was purple velvet with bronze studs; the right, yellow wool embroidered in green floral patterns. His breeches were similarly split; the right leg was solid green, the left leg striped in red and white. One of Illyrio’s chests had been packed with a child’s clothing, musty but well made. Septa Lemore had slit each garment apart, then sewn them back together, joining half ofthis to half of that to fashion a crude motley.Has anyone figured the different houses the clothing here represents?Doublet with yellow wool embroidered in green floral patterns - House Tyrell?Solid green breeches - House Tyrell?Red and white striped breeches - Jon Connington's house?Purple velvet doublet with bronze studs (This one is the most confusing....Littlefinger wears a plum colored doublet...or could it be the Redwyne's?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zent Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Just two questions, sorry if they have been asked before;Roose and Ramsy are aware that Bran and Rickon are alive, right? Also, were one of the millers boys that Theon killed his bastard son by the millers wife? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheButcherCrow Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Just two questions, sorry if they have been asked before;Roose and Ramsy are aware that Bran and Rickon are alive, right?Also, were one of the millers boys that Theon killed his bastard son by the millers wife?Yes and possibly. That's sort of the point with bastards (with any kids really). How do you know who your daddy is? 'Cause your mamma told ya'. The point is more that he very well could be Theon's bastard & since the miller's wife is dead the kid in question will remain, simultaneously, both Theon's bastard & not Theon's bastard. Schrodinger's bastard, if you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozentree Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Question of my own: At their height, how many dragons were ever alive at one time? Was it always 3?Followup: Are all dragon skulls accounted for in KL?Not always 3, there have been more at several points in timeProbably, but we don't really know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindchap Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Yes and possibly. That's sort of the point with bastards (with any kids really). How do you know who your daddy is? 'Cause your mamma told ya'. The point is more that he very well could be Theon's bastard & since the miller's wife is dead the kid in question will remain, simultaneously, both Theon's bastard & not Theon's bastard. Schroedinger's bastard, if you will.Wouldn't the kids in question be too old to be Theon's? Or was the younger one young enough to be his? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yolkboy Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Question of my own: At their height, how many dragons were ever alive at one time? Was it always 3?GRRM said a long time ago, dragons were 'everywhere'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheButcherCrow Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Wouldn't the kids in question be too old to be Theon's? Or was the younger one young enough to be his?They had to pass for an 8yr old & a 4yr old. Yes, the younger one could conceivably be Theon's I think. He would seem to be a pork swordsman of some renown & tapping the millers wife at 14/15 sounds believable. The point I was making was that it doesn't really matter. That in a world where highborn men routinely rape & bed lowborn women with no apparent method of contraception, bar morning-after moontea, then a man can kill his own son & not even ever know that he'd done it. So in effect, every man in Westeros who has a bastard of an age to go to war is killing his own son every time he cuts down some lowborn bastard on a battlefield and every man with a bastard of an age to work is raping his own daughter when he takes a tavern wench or serving girl, because if you don't know you have a bastard or you don't know what they look like then every bastard might as well be yours. Schrodinger's bastard. It's a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morienthar Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Question of my own: At their height, how many dragons were ever alive at one time? Was it always 3?Followup: Are all dragon skulls accounted for in KL?Jaehaerys I had 6 dragons.So no.and in pre history dragons roamed all over the planet.All Targ dragons yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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