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Would Robb have marched North to aid the wall?


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north, not the wall

unless you're thinking about ned, it was ned who said he might go

Yes but once he took Moat Cailin, Winterfell and Deepwood Motte back he would still go to defend the Wall. Northerners, especially Starks, know how important the Wall is.

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Yes but once he took Moat Cailin, Winterfell and Deepwood Motte back he would still go to defend the Wall. Northerners, especially Starks, know how important the Wall is.

but he'd have to defend the nick from the lanisters and the tyrells

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but he'd have to defend the nick from the lanisters and the tyrells

That wouldn't take his whole army though, put a few archers in Moat Cailin and tell the Crannogmen to bleed any army that comes up the causeway and the North will be sealed off from the south by land.

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Surely not to the extent Stannis did. Robb still had a campaign in the south to fight. If he now commits all or most of his man to the defence of the wall, all the progress he made is undone, his allies desert him or are defeated (how long could the Riverlands stand without Robb?), and the only thing keeping the Lannisters from taking the North piece by piece is Moat Cailin (that's one of the best places to be if you just try to defend yourself, though).

Stannis basically had no active campaign at this point. Staying on Dragonstone is a fight he can't win. So he is free to think outside the box, and so far this has worked pretty well for him.

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That wouldn't take his whole army though, put a few archers in Moat Cailin and tell the Crannogmen to bleed any army that comes up the causeway and the North will be sealed off from the south by land.

more like a few hundreds maybe even two thousand, the attackers expose their backs to arrows from the other towers at moat cailen but 30k could get through with some loses (against your few archers not the two thousand ) and i bet tywin lanister is more than willing to sacrifice thousands for half a kingdom and as you said "by land" he needs to defend the coasts too, or that redwyne fleet might not go to dragonstone

as i said, he has a war to win

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It's sorry to say, but other than a few hundred men; Robb wouldn't have done much else. It's not because, he wouldn't want to. The problem is, he is commited to the war. We already saw how conflicted he was about, giving up what he had won; in order to reclaim WF from the Iron Born. For him to make a full stop, turn around and head back to the Wall; he and his Northern army would have to leave the Riverlands all alone, to fight the Crown. Now, Robb would have left the Riverland bannermen where they were; but those numbers would stand no chance chance against the Lanninster/Tyrell host. There was no way, Robb would have left half his Kingdom to be slaughtered.

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I don't understand why people think the North didn't have more men to call up. Robb could have sent a raven to the mountain clans unlike Stannis who had to get to know them, and those 3000 men would have come running when a Stark calls to defend against a wildling invasion. White Harbor had 100 knights to accompany Manderly to Winterfell. All the North seems to have fighting men now after the RW, that didn't go south with Robb, from the Boltons, Gloverrs, Dustins, Flints, Umbers (hell they have enough for two host, 1 with Whoresbane and 1 with Crowfood) and Karstarks. After millennia guarding against wildling raids, why the Northern Lords didn't call up every possible fighting man when Aemon sent ravens is beyond me. Especially since it would have only taken 3 or 4 thousand men to defeat the wildlings like Stannis did.

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but he'd have to defend the nick from the lanisters and the tyrells

the Neck is a choke point, the terrian is marsh and not very good for moving an army through. Hundreds can repel thousands. Add in the Craggonmen harassing the invading army all the way up with their guerrilla tactics and you are able to free up a lot of men, at least half the force.

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I think everyone's forgotten Robb was already heading back North to take his land back. He'd have to kick out the Ironborn first but he'd be fighting on his homeground and winter's coming. Tywin's clever enough to know not to invade the North in winter when it's closed off by land.

Ned also said in GoT that 200 good bowmen could hold Moat Cailin against a host of thousands. It would also take at least two days for a full army to get up the causeway (the only way through the neck unless you have House Reed as an ally, which Robb does) to assault Moat Cailin and they'd be bled by Crannogmen every step of the way.

He wouldn't send every fighting man to the Wall but he'd definitely send a sizable number of men.

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I don't understand why people think the North didn't have more men to call up. Robb could have sent a raven to the mountain clans unlike Stannis who had to get to know them, and those 3000 men would have come running when a Stark calls to defend against a wildling invasion. White Harbor had 100 knights to accompany Manderly to Winterfell. All the North seems to have fighting men now after the RW, that didn't go south with Robb, from the Boltons, Gloverrs, Dustins, Flints, Umbers (hell they have enough for two host, 1 with Whoresbane and 1 with Crowfood) and Karstarks. After millennia guarding against wildling raids, why the Northern Lords didn't call up every possible fighting man when Aemon sent ravens is beyond me. Especially since it would have only taken 3 or 4 thousand men to defeat the wildlings like Stannis did.

With the Ironborn running around the North, people had to keep their remaining troops at home. Look how Theon took Winterfell, they had little men and Theon was raised there so he had the inside track on how to capture the castle. If Ser Roddrik had left a solid sized gaurd Theons capture attempt would have likely failed. If all the Northern houses sent all their available troops to aid the NW, they would have left their castles vulnerable to capture. If the Ironborn weren't kicking around up north, they propbably would have sent men.

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