RumHam Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 how are you sure of this? I cant see anything of wearing a helmet or definitive to say he'd finished his training. I just want to be sure about this one. He was purchsed along with the unsullied, but in that transaction, the half trained were bought too. Weren't the three brothers and Missandei taken at the same time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sertravisredbeard Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 I don't have my books on me but I think Marselen was chosen to be a leader. Dany and Jorah divided some of the Unsullied and Freedmen up to make them into platoons or squads or whatever. If Marsalen is Missandei's brother then he's a trained Unsullied. He's just been chosen to lead some freedmen too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aiiila Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 Why so suspicious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromisedPrince694 Posted October 13, 2013 Share Posted October 13, 2013 Weren't the three brothers and Missandei taken at the same time? They were. Missandei was taken to be a scribe and her brothers were made into Unsullied Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Leftwich Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Why Davos starts under Stannis command?, isnt Davos Renlys landed knight? How can be under Stannis liege if his fort and lands are in the Storm Lands???? There is a lot of time when this could have happened. Remember, Renly was still a child at the end of the Robellion. All the time between when Robert was crowned and when Renly comes into his majority, Stannis could have been in charge of Storm's End and Dragonstone. We do not know when Robert granted the seats to Stannis and Renly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ys-Livvy Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 1. Cersei acknowledges that highborn girls may lose their maidenheads to horse riding, yet when Margaery and her cousins are discovered without intact maidenheads, nobody seems to bring up this possibility. Why? 2. Do we know whether Margaery really was sleeping with somebody? Was requesting moon tea from Pycelle a trick to dupe Cersei? 3. When Tywin was discovered with Shae, Cersei was surprised because she thought Tywin didn't see whores. Is there any significance to this? 4. What are the laws on rape in Westeros? How is it that Roose Bolton can openly admit to having raped Ramsay's mother with no consequences when other rapists must choose between the wall or castration? Are they (as I assume) basically only applied when a highborn woman is the accuser and/or when a lowborn man is the accused? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Winter Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 1. It's not in Cersei's interest to bring that up. As for Margaery, it may be part of her defense at the trial. High Septon, on the other hand, just knows of her broken maidenhead and thinks it's enough to put her on trial (because, looking from his perspective it's possible and plausible she didn't break it by horse riding, but by fornication) 2. I think not, though it's a question still open for speculations. And Pycelle saying she requested moon tead from him is probably lying. There's no way that someone who was tutored by Queen of Throns would be so stupid to ask abortificant from known Lannister crony. ETA: if you think Margaery went to Pycelle to dupe Cersei, you may be interested in this old theory: http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/8204-grand-tyrell-conspiracy-theory/ 3. No significance, IMO, just that Tywin is hypocrite. 4. Rape is usually punishable by gelding and/or sending the rapist to the Wall. As is always the case, highborn lord can use his influence to try to hush accusations from lower-born women. Roose Bolton, for example, didn't openly admit to raping Ramsay's mother (he said it in private conversation with Theon), and, moreover, he took steps to ensure tale will not spread - he cut off her brother-in-law's tongue so he would not run and report it to Lord Rickard. Which implies Lord Rickard would have punished him if he knew the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crow's Third Eye Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Are the Lysene people of Valyrian descent? I ask because many seem to have the silver/gold hair of the Targaryens and Velaryons, which seems to be a Valyrian trait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arya kiddin' Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Are the Lysene people of Valyrian descent? I ask because many seem to have the silver/gold hair of the Targaryens and Velaryons, which seems to be a Valyrian trait The nine free cities are called daughters of Valyria, so they have many people their who boast Valyrian descent. Lys especially has many people with Valyrian silver hair, many quotes in the book give us that. One example - Titan's Bastard (or some other sellsword captain at Yunkai) insults Dany by saying "Might be I've had you in some Lysene pillow house. Or was that your sister? " (not an exact quote) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russo Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 There is a lot of time when this could have happened. Remember, Renly was still a child at the end of the Robellion. All the time between when Robert was crowned and when Renly comes into his majority, Stannis could have been in charge of Storm's End and Dragonstone. We do not know when Robert granted the seats to Stannis and Renly.Cressen mentions in the ACOK prologue that he came to Dragonstone 12 years ago with his Lord. I think its very likely the Lord was Stannis. So Id say we at least know that Stannis was granted Dragonstone within 3 years of the rebellion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromisedPrince694 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Cressen mentions in the ACOK prologue that he came to Dragonstone 12 years ago with his Lord. I think its very likely the Lord was Stannis. So Id say we at least know that Stannis was granted Dragonstone within 3 years of the rebellion. Didn't Stannis have to conquer Dragonstone as well? I think Viserys and Dany fled there first, and then had to escape to Braavos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Balerion Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Is the release date for Princess and the Queen Dec 3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Didn't Stannis have to conquer Dragonstone as well? I think Viserys and Dany fled there first, and then had to escape to Braavos?Stannis first has to build a fleet, before going to Dragonstone. Only then could he try and conquer the castle. Dany and Viserys stayed at Dragonstone until some point in 284 AL. They went to Braavos to avoid the advancing Stannis, since almost all of the castle was willing to surrender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Is the release date for Princess and the Queen Dec 3?YesIn the anthology Dangerous Women Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocoalover1956 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 In Sam's first ASOS chapter, he thinks "Maslyn screamed for mercy." Who's Maslyn? Was s/he mentioned before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 In Sam's first ASOS chapter, he thinks "Maslyn screamed for mercy." Who's Maslyn? Was s/he mentioned before? He was a steward in the NW and was part of Chett's conspiracy to kill LC Mormont. He's mentioned in ASoS prologue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crow's Third Eye Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Did Mel have sex with Mance in order to.cast his glamour, or perhaps concieve a shadow baby? I base this question off this quote btw:"The glamour, aye. In the black iron fetter about his wrist, the ruby seemed to pulse. He tapped it with the edge of his blade. The steel made a faint click against the stone. I feel it when i sleep. Warm against my skin, even through the iron. Soft as a woman's kiss. Your kiss. But sometimes in my dreams it startsto burn and your lips turn into teeth..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arya kiddin' Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Did Mel have sex with Mance in order to.cast his glamour, or perhaps concieve a shadow baby? I base this question off this quote btw:"The glamour, aye. In the black iron fetter about his wrist, the ruby seemed to pulse. He tapped it with the edge of his blade. The steel made a faint click against the stone. I feel it when i sleep. Warm against my skin, even through the iron. Soft as a woman's kiss. Your kiss. But sometimes in my dreams it startsto burn and your lips turn into teeth..." Wow. That's a possibility I never noticed. I can't answer that, but thanks it's new for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Did Mel have sex with Mance in order to.cast his glamour, or perhaps concieve a shadow baby? I base this question off this quote btw:"The glamour, aye. In the black iron fetter about his wrist, the ruby seemed to pulse. He tapped it with the edge of his blade. The steel made a faint click against the stone. I feel it when i sleep. Warm against my skin, even through the iron. Soft as a woman's kiss. Your kiss. But sometimes in my dreams it startsto burn and your lips turn into teeth..."I don't think so. The glamours we've seen have been centered around a gem no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinton07 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 where'd stannis get his fake lightbringer from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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