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The war was won at the Trident but not over. There was still the possibility of a seige of KL. The Lannisters could have joined with Houses Targaryen, Tyrell & Martell.

Sorry, I don't get your point. The war could have dragged on, but Walder showed up at the Trident to join Hoster's forces. So he would have participated in any future fighting in the Riverlands, there just wasn't any.

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Sorry, I don't get your point. The war could have dragged on, but Walder showed up at the Trident to join Hoster's forces. So he would have participated in any future fighting in the Riverlands, there just wasn't any.

I was agreeing with you (as usual). I was just elaborating for the OP why Lord Hoster didn't execute Lord Walder.
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Thank you very much Arya kiddin' (I like your avatar btw). As for one POV mentioning it or not, this is what strikes me actually. I have thought for a long time now that what the POVs do NOT say is often more important than what they do say or think: it can be like the no-incident of the dog in Sherlock Holmes (the fact that the dog did NOT bark led to the mystery solving) or on the contrary a deliberate omission from GRRM (easy when you only have very short discontinuous moments inside POVs) in order to hide some key plot clue. And I often come back to Ned's reply to Robert "your claim was better than mine" - which could imply a Targ / Stark link more indirect than Robert's (one generation above and through great uncles/aunts instead of a grand mother in this case).

As for the link you gave me, well, I have read it - and posted on it (I usually read all Apple Martini's topics, like many of us I suppose) in the hope of finding something on this matter but the subject was much further back in history and - again, not reading anything on the matter, I realised Egg's wife might still be a mystery (I have been unable to find the D&E stories other than the Mystery Knight).

ETA: spelling

Glad to help Jo Maltese. :D

I would like to disagree with you a little on this topic. I think GRRM's work is so full of symbolism and foreshadowing, that the clues are always there. So many events are properly foreshadowed in the text, it is just upto us to recognize the pattern the author has used. I'd suggest you read the Moments of Foreshadowing thread. Here is the latest one, it has links to the older ones as well though.

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In aDwD, when Tyrion is with Illyrio, the girl that wakes him up after his day of exploring the mansion, she speaks the Common Tongue, and remarks to Tyrion that she was bought to please the king. Do we know which king she is talking about? Illyrio tells us she's from Lys, and he also says "The king enjoyed her greatly".



So are there any hints anywhere I might have missed? Which king is this about?


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In aDwD, when Tyrion is with Illyrio, the girl that wakes him up after his day of exploring the mansion, she speaks the Common Tongue, and remarks to Tyrion that she was bought to please the king. Do we know which king she is talking about? Illyrio tells us she's from Lys, and he also says "The king enjoyed her greatly".

So are there any hints anywhere I might have missed? Which king is this about?

Viserys.
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Why do we call weirwood a heart tree? Is it because it is at the heart of the godswood? Or only this central weirwood is called a heart tree?

From my understanding, not all Weirwood's are heart trees and a heart tree is not always a Weirwood. A heart tree is the tree that resides in the center of a Godswood and usually, but not always, has a face carved into it.

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From my understanding, not all Weirwood's are heart trees and a heart tree is not always a Weirwood. A heart tree is the tree that resides in the center of a Godswood and usually, but not always, has a face carved into it.

Pretty sure everything you said is correct, but I will add that heart trees are almost always weirwoods. The only known example of a non-weirwood heart tree is King's Landing, which is relatively recent construction.

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Also in the Eyrie

The Eyrie does not have a godswood, precisely because a Weirwood wouldn't grow there.

Lysa’s apartments opened over a small garden, a circle of dirt and grass planted with blue flowers and ringed on all sides by tall white towers. The builders had intended it as a godswood, but the Eyrie rested on the hard stone of the mountain, and no matter how much soil was hauled up from the Vale, they could not get a weirwood to take root here. So the Lords of the Eyrie planted grass and scattered statuary amidst low, flowering shrubs.

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Sansa IV is indeed the first time it's mentioned in the books :





"How well I know that, child," Cersei said, her voice so kind and sweet. "Why else should you have come to me and told me of your father's plan to send you away from us, if not for love?"


"It was for love," Sansa said in a rush. "Father wouldn't even give me leave to say farewell." She was the good girl, the obedient girl, but she had felt as wicked as Arya that morning, sneaking away from Septa Mordane, defying her lord father. She had never done anything so willful before, and she would never have done it then if she hadn't loved Joffrey as much as she did. "He was going to take me back to Winterfell and marry me to some hedge knight, even though it was Joff I wanted. I told him, but he wouldn't listen." The king had been her last hope. The king could command Father to let her stay in King's Landing and marry Prince Joffrey, Sansa knew he could, but the king had always frightened her. He was loud and rough-voiced and drunk as often as not, and he would probably have just sent her back to Lord Eddard, if they even let her see him. So she went to the queen instead, and poured out her heart, and Cersei had listened and thanked her sweetly… only then, Ser Arys had escorted her to the high room in Maegor's Holdfast and posted guards, and a few hours later, the fighting had begun outside.




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This is purely hypothetical but suppose Sansa did marry Willas and Mace died, making him the lord of Highgarden; and Bran and Rickon were still assumed to be dead making Sansa the heir of Winterfell. Would Willas then become the lord of Highgarden and Winterfell? Would they have to name a castellan so one of their children could rule Winterfell when they were older or would they just name a new lord altogether?



I'm assuming they Sansa and Willas would both reside in Highgarden if this did hapen.



I'm just curious as to how this would have played out haha.


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This is purely hypothetical but suppose Sansa did marry Willas and Mace died, making him the lord of Highgarden; and Bran and Rickon were still assumed to be dead making Sansa the heir of Winterfell. Would Willas then become the lord of Highgarden and Winterfell? Would they have to name a castellan so one of their children could rule Winterfell when they were older or would they just name a new lord altogether?

I'm assuming they Sansa and Willas would both reside in Highgarden if this did hapen.

I'm just curious as to how this would have played out haha.

Yes, Willas and Sansa would hold both castles, and paramountcy of The Reach and The North. Presumably they would split them up between their children, if only because the two areas are so far away from each other. Otherwise they run the risk of The North eventually revolting against being ruled from Highgarden (given the choice, I assume Sansa would want to live in Highgarden and not Winterfell.)

when dunk wants to throw walder frey down a well does he intend to kill the child or teach him a lesson

It was said in anger, and Dunk himself doesn't seem sure. He says he wants to spank him or toss him down the well, which would almost certainly be fatal. Unless Lassie was in the area.

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when dunk wants to throw walder frey down a well does he intend to kill the child or teach him a lesson

By this time in the novels we know what Walder becomes, maybe George just threw it in so we would think how much horror would have been averted if Dunk had just done it. But no I doubt Dunk would throw a child down a well, a clout though, well, that's another story. :)

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By this time in the novels we know what Walder becomes, maybe George just threw it in so we would think how much horror would have been averted if Dunk had just done it. But no I doubt Dunk would throw a child down a well, a clout though, well, that's another story. :)

I can't remember, does he ever actually follow through with his threats and hit Egg?

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