Lost Melnibonean Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 When is it revealed that Roose switches sides on Robb?Was it before Arya sees them at Harrenhal.Because I didn't realize that's what happened until much later, I didn't even realize he was at the RWwhen Roose sends Glover, Tallhart & Karstark to Duskendale there is no longer any doubt that Roose is a traitor. Later we learn that he resolved to move against Robb when Theon seized WF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaarioKnowsBest Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 when Roose sends Glover, Tallhart & Karstark to Duskendale there is no longer any doubt that Roose is a traitor.When does this happen?Is it in an Arya Harrenhal chapter after Roose takes over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Its the first Arya chapter after the Battle of the Blackwater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Melisandre had spent the night in her chair by the fire, as she often did. With Stannis gone, her bed saw little use. Do you think this is how Stannis gets warm in that awfully cold place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iona Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Melisandre had spent the night in her chair by the fire, as she often did. With Stannis gone, her bed saw little use. Do you think this is how Stannis gets warm in that awfully cold place? After the Renly-killing-shadow-baby there was talk that Stannis had "problems sleeping" and Mel was the only one who could soothe his nightmares. If I wanted to be fair, I'd say that it could be that Mel is just Stan's sleep therapist, but if I'm brutally honest, I think they were burning their own "night fires" in her bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balaurderaa Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Who did Stannis leave in command at Storm's End when he left for the wall? And what happened to his castellan at Dragonstone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arya kiddin' Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Who did Stannis leave in command at Storm's End when he left for the wall? And what happened to his castellan at Dragonstone? Ser Gilbert Farring was the castellan at Storm's end. He sustained the siege laid there by Mathis Rowan. From Arianne's gift chapter however, we know that the Golden Company have won Storm's End, and Jon Connington holds it now for Young Griff/Aegon. At Dragonstone Ser Rolland Storm had the command, the Bastard of Nightsong. He declined Loras single combat during the siege. I dion't believe we know what happened to him afterwards. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 “The bones help,” said Melisandre. “The bones remember. The strongest glamors are built of such things. A dead man’s boots, a hank of hair, a bag of fingerbones. What will happen to Dareon's boots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 “The bones help,” said Melisandre. “The bones remember. The strongest glamors are built of such things. A dead man’s boots, a hank of hair, a bag of fingerbones. What will happen to Dareon's boots? Nice catch. Arya still has the boots, right? Perhaps she'll take on Dareon's face at one point, if women can take on the faces of men, which I'm not sure about. If she can take Dareons face, would that mean she gains his ability to sing like him? Since no one noticed Pate was replaced, I'm guessing that the voice is transferred along with the face. If Arya can take Dareon's face, and gains his ability to sing (and Dareon was a great singer), she could use that to her advantage. It would most certainly help her getting coin to book a passage Across the Narrow Sea, if (or when) she wants to return to Westeros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Nice catch. Arya still has the boots, right? Perhaps she'll take on Dareon's face at one point, if women can take on the faces of men, which I'm not sure about. If she can take Dareons face, would that mean she gains his ability to sing like him? Since no one noticed Pate was replaced, I'm guessing that the voice is transferred along with the face. If Arya can take Dareon's face, and gains his ability to sing (and Dareon was a great singer), she could use that to her advantage. It would most certainly help her getting coin to book a passage Across the Narrow Sea, if (or when) she wants to return to Westeros. Maybe when she is tall enough, she will glamour herself like Dareon. Kindly man said she will learn all those arts and more. In GRRM universe, taking the appearance of a singer means, she will sneak into a castle and carry out a secret ploy. Perhaps she will sneak into the Red Keep like this, or maybe the Vale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iona Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Maybe when she is tall enough, she will glamour herself like Dareon. She might not need to wait. Mance was able to pose as Rattleshirt, though they differed in size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 She might not need to wait. Mance was able to pose as Rattleshirt, though they differed in size. In addition to that, girls usually have growth spurts between the ages of 8 and 13. Arya was 11 years old at the end of aDwD. She could very well be growing quickly in the next books, making her come closer in height to Dareon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 In addition to that, girls usually have growth spurts between the ages of 8 and 13. Arya was 11 years old at the end of aDwD. She could very well be growing quickly in the next books, making her come closer in height to Dareon. Her legs already started to get longer in ADwD. Surely her face and waists are also in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegloriousedd Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 I had a thought when I woke up today, is there a thread about the Starks importance in ruling (as kings in the north) that keeps the Others at bay through some pact with the COTF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 I had a thought when I woke up today, is there a thread about the Starks importance in ruling (as kings in the north) that keeps the Others at bay through some pact with the COTF? People have suggested it, taking "there must always be a Stark in Winterfell" to have a deeper meaning. The timing doesn't quite work out since The Others killed Wymar, Gared and Will, and attacked the Fist of the First Men while there was a Stark in Winterfell. Edit: Obviously they didn't kill Gared, Ned did. Oops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegloriousedd Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 People have suggested it, taking "there must always be a Stark in Winterfell" to have a deeper meaning. The timing doesn't quite work out since The Others killed Wymar, Gared and Will, and attacked the Fist of the First Men while there was a Stark in Winterfell. Edit: Obviously they didn't kill Gared, Ned did. Oops.That makes sense, I just had a crazy thought that the others were gaining power because they weren't kings anymore. (Very crackpot I have nothing to back it up) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodraven's Lost Eye Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 That makes sense, I just had a crazy thought that the others were gaining power because they weren't kings anymore. (Very crackpot I have nothing to back it up) It's not THAT crazy as in, there's alot of other people thinking this. This very topic has been discussed at length though, try looking under "there must always be a stark in Winterfell" or just "a stark in Winterfell" or sniff around in the heresy thread(s) they've gone through Stark-Cotf-The Others connections... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaarioKnowsBest Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 What if your a noble woman and your husband gets sent to the Wall, are you still bound in marriage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Assuming it's not to difficult can one of you guys with the ebooks please tell me which chapters mention House Liddle or any individual Liddles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 What if your a noble woman and your husband gets sent to the Wall, are you still bound in marriage? I don't think so, but I'm not sure. We haven't had any examples. The closest thing would be Fireball sending his wife to the silent sisters so he could join the Kingsguard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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