Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 I would like to add to the SSM that RumHam quoted about the size of Dorne, that it was King Daeron I who exaggerated the numbers of the Dornish army, to make his conquest seem more grand. Dorne, I believe it's mentioned by Doran in aDwD, has simply continued doing that, in order not to seem weak in the eyes of the other Kingdoms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 How much od Westeros actually seem to believe Daeron was a bastard from Aemon? Fron both modern times and Dunk eraUncertain, for both times. In modern asoiaf times I'd say no one cares at the moment.But back in the days of Aegon VI and Daeron II, it will be a bit vague. This wasn't simply a war to put the "rightful" monarch on the throne. A lot of people who supported Daemon stood to gain from it. They could gain wealth/power/lands which they wouldn't get from Daeron. Of course, these people were intermixed with the people who truly believed they should support Daemon because of the sword and his being made legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sordelor Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 If 2 Dornish Highborn peope marrie, but non is the head/ heir of the huse, which name do the children get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin the Mighty Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 If 2 Dornish Highborn peope marrie, but non is the head/ heir of the huse, which name do the children get? Id doesn't matter if the female is the heir. The dornish accept matrilineal marriages, where the son takes the mothers name, its up to the ones that negotiate the marriage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Tyrion kicked Haldon's ass every way he could. He corrected his quotes on various books. He defeated him in a cyvasse game. Does these have a foreshadowing meaning in the Dance of the Dragons 2.0? By the way, JonCon noticed the incompetency of Haldon. I think JonCon is the only man who can lead fAegon to success. Since Dany will win the Dance, JonCon will be taken out from fAegon's cause somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Tyrion kicked Haldon's ass every way he could. He corrected his quotes on various books. He defeated him in a cyvasse game. Does these have a foreshadowing meaning in the Dance of the Dragons 2.0? By the way, JonCon noticed the incompetency of Haldon. I think JonCon is the only man who can lead fAegon to success. Since Dany will win the Dance, JonCon will be taken out from fAegon's cause somehow.Could be, of course. But perhaps it was just to show that Tyrion knows a lot about dragons, which will be useful for Dany. But it would be incredibly ironic if the Princess and the Queen next week would show us that even Tyrion makes mistakes about such a subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Egeman Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Tyrion kicked Haldon's ass every way he could. He corrected his quotes on various books. He defeated him in a cyvasse game. Does these have a foreshadowing meaning in the Dance of the Dragons 2.0? By the way, JonCon noticed the incompetency of Haldon. I think JonCon is the only man who can lead fAegon to success. Since Dany will win the Dance, JonCon will be taken out from fAegon's cause somehow.That is one of the reasons JonCon has greyscale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ser naes yennet Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Question, how often do some of you guys reread these books? I am literally creating a set of notes because I don't want to forget what I know right now lmao. Like, off tiny random trivia. i first read books 1-4 in a row, then waited for book 5 to be released. i then read that when it came out, and then a short while later re-read books 1-5, with a lot of note taking occurring then. i am planning the same with book 6. i'll get that the day it is released and read it. then i will start with book 1 and re-read all 6, and that is when i take notes. in the mean time i will finish the d&e stories and stay fresh on the story and ideas with this board and some wiki reads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Spark of House Spark Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 How does Uncat know that Oathkeeper was made from Ice. She says that it proves Brienne's betrayal, but there are other Valyrian swords in the 7 kingdoms, and Brienne's shield has a sigil from some extinct house that once held harrenhal which she chose from her father's vault. Harrenhal would have been under the lord Paramountcy of the Tullysso if the house was wiped out surely the sheild would ha ve meant something to her as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 How does Uncat know that Oathkeeper was made from Ice. She says that it proves Brienne's betrayal, but there are other Valyrian swords in the 7 kingdoms, and Brienne's shield has a sigil from some extinct house that once held harrenhal which she chose from her father's vault. Harrenhal would have been under the lord Paramountcy of the Tullysso if the house was wiped out surely the sheild would ha ve meant something to her as wellI don't see where she comes to believe it was made from Ice. Oathkeeper exhibited a golden pommel inthe shape of a lion's head and the rubies for eyes. That's what proved the betrayal in LS's eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MordsGoldTeeth Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Brienne also carried a written order with Tommen's signature and seal on it as well, about as damning evidence there is iirc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Leftwich Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 How does Uncat know that Oathkeeper was made from Ice. She says that it proves Brienne's betrayal, but there are other Valyrian swords in the 7 kingdoms, and Brienne's shield has a sigil from some extinct house that once held harrenhal which she chose from her father's vault. Harrenhal would have been under the lord Paramountcy of the Tullysso if the house was wiped out surely the sheild would ha ve meant something to her as well By the time LS sees Brienne, the shield has been repainted from the Lothston sigil (black bat) to that of Duncan the Tall (falling star over the tree.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 How does Uncat know that Oathkeeper was made from Ice. She says that it proves Brienne's betrayal, but there are other Valyrian swords in the 7 kingdoms, and Brienne's shield has a sigil from some extinct house that once held harrenhal which she chose from her father's vault. Harrenhal would have been under the lord Paramountcy of the Tullysso if the house was wiped out surely the sheild would ha ve meant something to her as wellI think UnCat doesn't know at all about the sword. I think it is about the fact that Brienne had sworn Cat a vow, but seems to be working for the Lannisters now. In UnCat's eyes, that is enough to condemn you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crow's Third Eye Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 I think UnCat doesn't know at all about the sword. I think it is about the fact that Brienne had sworn Cat a vow, but seems to be working for the Lannisters now. In UnCat's eyes, that is enough to condemn you.doesnt she hiss at the sword though? I will need to check when i have the book to hand but I seem to think someone in the cave does actually mention Ice being.Oathkeeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sansa_Stark Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 doesnt she hiss at the sword though? I will need to check when i have the book to hand but I seem to think someone in the cave does actually mention Ice being.Oathkeeper I think it was because Brienne called it Oathkeeper whereas she should have named it Oathbreaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommystinker Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Can anyone tell me how many men wyman manderley took to 'arya' wedding at winterfell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymeria's Vendetta Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 300 men, 100 knights is what Aenys Frey says in the A Ghost in Winterfell chapter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommystinker Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 300 men, 100 knights is what Aenys Frey says in the A Ghost in Winterfell chapter.Thankyou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Dolorous Edd Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Do you think Jaime would/could kill Cersei? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Do you think Jaime would/could kill Cersei? Lots of people believe he is the Valonqar, myself included http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/61974-valonqar-jamie-spoilers/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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