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  2. People always resist. History is full of cities which resisted both in our own and in GoT's history. Plus, even if they did surrender, what would happen if some insurgency arose after she left and people naturally resented her rule? Maybe even kill a few of Daeny's advisors ? We have seen what she did to an entire city of innocents after the death of one advisor already... Really think she wouldn't do it again? I don't regard her as evil, more so totally sold on her own delusion that she is the sole bringer of justice and that all who oppose her are evil and that any act she does in the name of justice is correct regardless of the cost. A megalomaniac is how I would label her
  3. No, no, Martin didn't say that.
  4. Kaapstad

    A season of Jons betrayal

    The common folk were living happily under Cersei. Certainly better I think than how they would live under Bran.
  5. You misspelled "2 episodes."
  6. CrypticWeirwood

    A season of Jons betrayal

    Emoking means what? Esmoking hot? Visigoth or Transylvanian?
  7. How is it beyond dishonest to say her goal is to kill people? She just torched a city in the name of her better vision, do you think it would be any different anywhere else when people with their own ideas naturally resist her "better" vision? She even said that other people with different ideas have no choice, she gets to decide. What do you honestly think she is going to do if people disagree with her? Her own actions over 8 seasons indicate death by fire. Let's also, she made this speech of global liberation to an army who had just sacked a city. You would be a fool to think she was going to spread this global liberation by asking nicely. A war of liberation regardless if people asked for it or needed it, she decides that you need to be liberated and she is bringing an army and a dragon along to do it. No one else gets a say because it's her vision and you don't get a choice in it. So yeah, she will bring death and destruction, much like she did for 8 seasons.
  8. I'm thinking that it's more French Revolutionary rhetoric than a communist agenda. But I get your point.
  9. You seriously think the next city isn't going to surrender after seeing what happened to those who defy her? For your logic to have work what should have happened is KL surrender without a fight and then Dany kill everyone, that would have made her irredeemably evil. There isn't any surrender at the last moment after the attackers have fought their way past the walls and it was common practice by conquerors to make an example of cities that resisted. The whole business with the bells is in there for modern audiences.
  10. Agree with this, I do I thought the same when watching. The image is Nazi, but the message is not.
  11. Proudfeet

    NBA Playoffs 2019 - Kawhi So Serious?!

    I just don't agree. Putting GS and Houston and maybe Denver aside, I think Toronto and Milwaukee would be clear favourites. You can give the rest a decent chance of upsetting, but they are underdogs to me. Surely you are not saying that they would lose in the first round in the West?
  12. JagLover

    Jon killing Dany doesn’t work for me

    The signs were there alright for her to become an increasingly ruthless conqueror, but the signs were also there for her to remain a grey character, rather than a blonde Hitler.
  13. rotting sea cow

    ASoIaF and LotR commentary, comparison and parallels

    I'd argue that Theon-Reek is Gollum
  14. Techmaester

    A season of Jons betrayal

    So we agree from the perspective of her successful conquest, it was neither beneficial or logical for Dany to have either saved Jon or committed her forces to his battle? That it would have been fundamentally better for her to immediately fly into kings landing and burn it down? Do we also acknowledge that she knows but choses not to do it for Jon? If we accept the above it's pretty darn hard to not think Jon fundamentally owes her. Ned would probably have beheaded him for his actions and lack of loyalty.
  15. I want to see Danaerys' communist agenda materialise. At least she's direct and honest. The whole drama could have been averted had Danaerys just set her pride to one side and married Cersei Lannister. They could have jointly ruled as queen and queen and their example would help legalise same sex marriage.
  16. New political system under her rule versus being actually dead. It's beyond dishonest to say it's her end goal to kill people and her desire not to has probably been her biggest flaw these last two seasons leading to fundamental strategic mistakes. They acted against her, why is it surprising that someone is going to burn down a city which stood against them? That's the nature of conquest and a changing political system. Revolutions and changes in leadership are rarely done without violence.
  17. Triskele

    NBA Playoffs 2019 - Kawhi So Serious?!

    But we're not. 100% my point is that GS is still the favorite even if my lunatic theory that KD has been done since the moment of the injury turns out to be true....My point is that GS will beat Toronto or The Good Land even if KD is not available. Not only is this true, this is obviously true. Look at the bunched up West from GS, to Denver to SA to Portland to Houston to Utah to LAC...how would Toronto or Milwaukee have disrupted this? Obviously, they would not have. So therefor in logic most pure it is GS until otherwise. What is the powerful motivation to see it otherwise?
  18. Charles Stuart

    A season of Jons betrayal

    I can agree in regards to her being disappointed in Jon. She wanted a loyal lackey who supported her every whim and command and to stand by and support every massacre she committed in the name of her apparently "better" vision which only she could see. So yeah, I can understand if she was disappointed that Jon had other ideas and priorities.
  19. SansaJonRule

    The Book of The Kingsguard - Help Me Decide

    That stinks of a cop-out to me.
  20. Daeny would have repeated the massacre of KL all over Westeros and the rest of the world. It would have been a betrayal of Jon's own character to stand by and let her perpetuate some sort of revolutionary liberation jihad across the world leading to the deaths of millions. They literally just fought a battle against the night king to save everyone. Do you think he is going to stand aside just to let daeny commit massacres all over the world in pursuit of her own vision?
  21. Apoplexy

    The Book of The Kingsguard - Help Me Decide

    Good day to you then. Come back anytime. My enlightenment services are free as always.
  22. Apoplexy

    The Book of The Kingsguard - Help Me Decide

    For me there was 7 seasons of him gradually moving farther and farther away from cersei. Why put in that much time and effort behind a nothingburger? Had he not left KL and died with cersei, id be less mad because then at least it would be in character (somehwhat). And thanks! It aptly describes my current state
  23. Techmaester

    A season of Jons betrayal

    That's exactly what Cersi did and the result was successfully embedding herself into KL. Dany got nothing out of it, she supposed that helping Jon would give her loyalty but it clearly didn't given his actions. If this show proved anything all that matters is that rapid, violent and ruthless wars need to be waged and ended as soon as possible when you have an overwhelming force. Danys mercy resulted in the deaths of her friends and people until she finally said no more. It was her restraint that failed these last two seasons and had she entered her campaign in episode 5 when she first landed, the war would have been completed. But anyway getting back to the point she got nothing out of Jon but loss, disappointment and betrayal.
  24. The only way "breaking the wheel" makes some sort of sense (and bearing in mind this is D&D so it may not make any sense) is that Dany wants to upend the existing social order, to end Feudalism. So she is not talking of conquering lands she already controls only that they will be included in the social changes. The imagery was Nazi like, but her message was similar to the French revolution or Communism.
  25. Warning - the quality goes down after you get past the books that Frank Herbert wrote. But the ones that FH wrote are quite good.
  26. That wasn't the Dany who was making The Speech. She was sounding like she was ready to take her Jihad to the world. That isn't simmering down. Her reign in Essos wasn't all death because she had advisers who talked her out of such things. Mostly. Remember S6, ep9. "[I will] return their cities to the dirt" or "burn their cities to the ground". That's at least 3 cities, one of which (Volantis) is one of the most populous is Essos and maybe the world. Tyrion convinced her not to do this. I thought we were discussion Daenarys?
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