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  2. Bernie Mac

    Master thread on what the Show means for the book plot

    Who is more likely than a crippled, impotent child with no blood claim and worships the Old Gods (a minority religion even before the North was given away), believed dead and missing from the world of Westeros politics for the last few years? Pretty much everyone, off the top of my head His own sister. Sansa, if her marriage to Tyrion is annulled, is a young presumable fertile, healthy person. Marrying her to another powerful noble offers an alliance to unite the realm. With her as Queen we presumably don't get the North seceding Edric Storm, an acknowledged bastard of Robert's, he's both an heir of Robert's crown and Dany's Crown via his great, great grandmother. Unlike his show counterpart Gendry, he's a noble on both sides, was raised a noble, follows in Robert and Renly's charisma footsteps and is supported by the Florents of the Reach and the Estermonts of the Stormlands Should Robin Arryn survive childhood he rules the one kingdom relatively unscathed in the last 5 books. Strong army, single, Andal and from one of the most ancient and respected families in Westeros Jon if his birth becomes known, which him riding a Dragon should confirm Except they don't. Sansa is healthy, can presumably marry with another House and create heirs to rule the realm. Sansa, presumably by the time of the last book, will have influence in amongst the Vale nobility and Northern nobility. Bran's been in a cave and outside of the Reeds has no real influence among the nobility of Westeros.
  3. T and A

    Anyone Going To Watch The Prequel Series

    I never knew, I want something like that. But I want something like that . A "Two and a half Men" Version of Mereen.
  4. Datepalm

    Eurovision 2019

    So I'm in Djibouti where for some reason the Eurovision is not a thing (why???) but catching up no - all I have is can we get Conchita Wurst doing Heroes as a single or something? I liked that better than the original.
  5. T and A

    Master thread on what the Show means for the book plot

    I don't believe that for a second. Even before the show spoiled it. We will see if Winds come out
  6. T and A

    The aftermatch of the decision made by D&D

    Oh, I didn't knew that . But he was also behind Jennys Song...And GRRM praises him so much, and has worked with him on some prequels...hmmm...
  7. karaddin

    The Good Place S3 - heaven is a place on Earth (spoilers)

    anxiety as an exercise routine
  8. DaveSumm

    Star Trek: Picard

    I’d be surprised if anyone said “oh, you mean when Spock and that mining ship mysteriously disappeared?”, you’re probably free to imagine Romulus was destroyed in the prime, the end.
  9. Rose of Red Lake

    Jon killing Dany doesn’t work for me

    She wanted to hear something more from him though, than just titles. He didn't give her that and used seduction so she wouldn't notice the knife going in. Jon's queen is a mass murderer who burns children alive, so he can live with that as a fond memory of her. Sorry I just dont see this as a tragic romance because there is no romance there.
  10. Undoubtedly, it is a slow burner. But, the emotions are so intense all the time that once you are sucked into that world of theirs, you are constantly frightened what may come next. Those two performances made the silly, outlandish, absurd premise work like a charm. But, every now and then, the show gets into a gear and you are left breathless. It may be slow, but it is never boring. So, are we still to assume that Bran will be able to live that long without being connected to weirwood? I mean would Bloodraven die had he not gone to the cave?
  11. Black Crow

    Heresy 222 vindication

    I'd be rather inclined to suggest a connection between the Shrouded Lord and the Stranger
  12. Kaapstad

    Jon killing Dany doesn’t work for me

    He says that just as he stabs her. I think this time he meant it in a romantic context. He first says "You are my queen" then follows it up with "You will always be my queen". He didn’t mean that literally. After all he did love her. He was forced to kill her.
  13. Why? Do wildlings love Jon so much so they would die for him fighting the Boltons? Even in the show he needed to convince them, marrying a wildling in the books would help on the matter imo. If Jon will be resurrected and be KitN eventually in TWOW, marriage with Val should be right after his resurrection. Why would he think of southern marriage pacts at this point as a bastard and when there is no other option but to fight Boltons? And if he'll refuse Dany just like in the shitshow, at least he'd have a better reason.
  14. Rose of Red Lake

    Jon killing Dany doesn’t work for me

    Except she didnt want him to keep saying that. I think he was manipulating her.
  15. Kaapstad

    Jon killing Dany doesn’t work for me

    GRRM said the fates of the main characters are the same in the books as on the show. Only the secondary characters fate may change. Jon is going to live in the books.
  16. Black Crow

    Heresy 222 vindication

    Not so curious given that "Aegon/Jon" offed her in the end, but otherwise a fair comment
  17. SeanF

    Slavoj Zizek on the ending

    I'd need to search for it, but my understanding is that borough representation made far more sense in the 15th century than it did by 1832. A lot of places that had been flourishing boroughs in 1450 had become backwaters by 1832 (or vanished completely) whereas new centres of population were completely unrepresented at borough level. The property qualification in the counties had remained unchanged for centuries, but small freeholders tended to get bought out by bigger landowners in the preceding century, so the number of freehold voters fell.
  18. Vanadis

    What was the point of r+l=j

    If Tyrion had talked Jon into claiming his birth right instead of killing Dany, the secret would have had a good payoff. I don't buy the portrayal of Dany in season 8, since it was obviously done to make us root for Jon and not in an attempt to explore her character, but even given the ending we got I think she would have refrained from killing Aegon Targaryen, true king of Westeros, and her nephew.
  19. Rose of Red Lake

    Jon killing Dany doesn’t work for me

    Ygrrite and Dany. God, its really dumb to repeat the same story twice.
  20. "Orders for atomic bombs to be used on four Japanese cities were issued on July 25. On August 6, one of the modified B-29s dropped a uranium gun-type ("Little Boy") bomb on Hiroshima. Three days later, on August 9, a plutonium implosion ("Fat Man") bomb was dropped by another B-29 on Nagasaki. The bombs immediately devastated their targets. Over the next two to four months, the acute effects of the atomic bombings killed 90,000–146,000 people in Hiroshima and 39,000–80,000 people in Nagasaki; roughly half of the deaths in each city occurred on the first day. Large numbers of people continued to die from the effects of burns, radiation sickness, and other injuries, compounded by illness and malnutrition, for many months afterward. In both cities, most of the dead were civilians, although Hiroshima had a sizable military garrison." (quoted from Wikipedia) That wasn't Daenerys. That wasn't Hitler. That was Truman. And there are people who justify to this day killing civilians to save the lives of American soldiers. We don't need to look back to the middle ages.
  21. Kaapstad

    Jon killing Dany doesn’t work for me

    I really doubt he would marry anyone especially after what happened to his first 2 women. He would be having PTSD at this point. The way he tells Dany " You will always be my queen" before he kills her shows he would honour her memory forever. It’s not too bad as in my head canon he would still visit Winterfell and his family every now and then after a few years. Sansa is also unlikely to marry after she was raped by 1 husband and mentally tortured by another prospective husband. Arya has said she won’t marry. THey could just all live together once they become adults. Too much has happened to them to live a normal life.
  22. Daeron Vaith

    The "Val" Option, Jon´s alternative to the Iron Throne?

    Imho Val's knowledge is more trustworthy than that of the maesters. Like "herb witches" in the Dark Age whose knowledge was superior to the catholic priests and other ignorant men who burned them at the stake while advising the people to pray hard so the plague won't harm them.....
  23. I've encountered quite a lot of people who were cheering Dany on as she torched Kings Landing, and were annoyed that she got killed in the next episode. I wonder how common that view is. I guess it's very common to just pick a side and stick by it.
  24. Kaapstad

    Jon killing Dany doesn’t work for me

    It isn’t that brutal. He can still visit Sansa in Winterfell and Arya whenever she returns. Both of them likely scarred for life just like he is and staying single.
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