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  2. The HBO boss has said there will be no sequels. And with GRRM taking 9 years more to finish ADOS, there is no chance of a sequel.
  3. It_spelt_Magalhaes

    Dany CAN (And Shall???) Rise Again!!!

    Also, the heart, they called it? I distinctly saw her bleeding from the mouth and nose, right? Lung? Esophagus? I think I read somewhere that straight puncture wounds are unlikely to kill someone before the weapon is removed, allowing from hemorrhage to be fatal. Or did Bland!Jon grow a pair andtwost the dagger? Evul, bro!
  4. It_spelt_Magalhaes

    Dany CAN (And Shall???) Rise Again!!!

    Headshots, people. Headshots.
  5. RYShh

    Jon killing Dany doesn’t work for me

    I didn't say she needed them to defeat Cersei, Davos even mocked with them by saying ''Not to defeat Cersei. You could storm King's Landing tomorrow and the city would fall. Hell, we almost took it and we didn't even have dragons!'' She needed allies to rule the kingdoms, she will rule somewhere right? She can't do it without trusted allies, and she lost those trusted allies. That was political reason, and the military reason was to they needed to deal with the Night King, as they said the Night King would defeat them if they didn't join forces, and we've seen that Night King killed a Dragon, and then he smiled at Dragon fire, she couldn't defeat the Night King without their help, that's a fact. She said; ''And give the country to Cersei? As soon as I march away, she marches in.'' Then she only accepted to help them after Cersei lied to them, that's what she believed, otherwise she wouldn't send her armies to the North. She wasn't sacrificing anything, she lost a Dragon, but did she know Night King could kill one of them? I doubt. After seeing the Night King threat and Cersei's truce, she went to North with her armies.
  6. Leticia Stark

    The "Val" Option, Jon´s alternative to the Iron Throne?

    Yes, but he loved Ygritte, who knows with Dany. Either way, he's going to end his days with the wildlings like we saw in the show, so he'll probably end alone or with a wildling woman. After all, D&D know where the main characters will end and we saw it.
  7. ohiostate124

    The "Val" Option, Jon´s alternative to the Iron Throne?

    Of course he’ll be different but I’m just referring specifically to the changes that occurred in Beric and Catelyn. I think he’ll avoid that. Obviously being murdered will have an effect though.
  8. It_spelt_Magalhaes

    Was Sansa aiming for Jon?

    Northerners are insular shits. Deeply set in their ways and traditions. After decades of the collective memory of the Mad King's rule, Rhaegar's taking of Lyanna and the horrors of war? Daenerys should've kept her 'I will rule' mentality aside and started a very serious PR campaign before arrival. Her turn as liberator in Essos gave her a wrong idea that somehow people would welcome her. Varys' inability or unwillingness to revert the narrative and control the 'foreign whore' spin that cost Daenerys the Reach could be either incompetence or a sign he never intended to seriously back her, I guess. It would have been even harder to convince the North. Dragons are unholy, dangerous monsters to them. And her slave army and dothraki screamers? I didn't like that they were made to look like prejudiced brutes, but isolated populations in difficult conditions tend to be distrustful of new arrivals. Daenerys was portrayed as a naive child. Muah, I will save them and they will love me. Jon's rejoinder of 'when they know you' was even more moronic. Claimed motivations would not change the fact that she had power and they, the North, had no margin to bargain with her. The imbalance of power shifted 'alliance' to 'submission'. Someone like Sansa in the show, who became a savy political maneuverer at the knee of the likes of LF? She would never accept those conditions. But mostly they are just insular, stubborn shits. The North is the North, fuck the rest, wether it comes from the South or the East.
  9. Raksha 2014

    Moral of each characters story?

    I'm not sure that Arya would have been able to bring Walder Frey to face justice and be judged by trial. I also don't think that Walder Frey necessarily deserved either; after orchestrating the murder of almost all of his guests. I don't think that Arya killed any of the Frey women and children; with the possible exception of the woman whose face she wore to serve in the hall. I agree that Arya has been psychologically damaged by her traumas and subsequent journey. But I think that the last two episodes of Season 8 offer hope that Arya can recover, at least to some extent. Sandor's last words to her seem to have had a strong effect on Arya - instead of continuing her mission to kill Cersei (and probably dying in the attempt), Arya tries to save some of the panicked residents of King's Landing. She sees, as she did during and after the Battle of Winterfell, death on a grand and horrible scale; and essentially rejects it and chooses life instead (harkening back to Syrio's words: "What do we say to the God of Death? Not today"). I think Arya's decision to sail for parts unknown is both a return to her childhood love of adventure and perhaps a recognition that Winterfell, beloved as it is, is too small for her now. She has saved what's left of her family, but they and she are grown up now and have different directions to travel.
  10. Dear lord you guys are missing the point in carrying this far fetched theory even further... Considering BR's ability to use glamours, which is something never even mentioned by anyone else as an Old Gods power, I'd say hes done some studying somewhere and had some sort of mentor, yes. His abilities seem to have been very advanced, beyond Bran and Jojen's to be sure.
  11. What I meant by "since Trump" was that I've had that thought since early but the events of recent days like Barr's new powers plus Trumps treason talk is making me wonder to what extent we're getting close to when/how they actually pursue this angle. So difficult to tell because how many of us even understand the ways in which this sort of stuff could actually be pursued legally. But the President is actively talking about executing Comey for Treason, and Barr seems to think the POTUS is supposed to be a King. Terrifying times.
  12. We said earlier that the Tully’s should have demanded trial by combat. Dany should have uttered “Fire is the champion of house Targaryen” and burned them (not my suggestion on the line but perfect). What if Dany accused Jon of treason, given him trial by combat, uttered those same words, and had Drogon destroy her. Of course I’m forgetting the I burnt thing.
  13. Well, the wording so suggested that it was, to me, anyway! After all, even here, posters keep suggesting things aren't as bad as so many of us see it as being, or that somebody among the rethugs will come and save us from themselves and him -- and ourselves as well, I suppose.
  14. Tyrion1991

    Jon killing Dany doesn’t work for me

    As demonstrated by the Bells, she does not need the North to beat Cersei and Euron. She wasn’t expecting the North to join her until Jon bent the knee. By then she had already set herself to helping them. That doesn’t make her selfish. Her army is much more powerful than the Vale and Northern armies. They need her far more than she needs them. If it was so strong a condition she wouldn’t have flown up to help Jon n Co.
  15. It's not even opening here for months.
  16. Why necessarily Jorah. More telling if we had more indication of dragons smarter than men. She commands Drogon to destroy Jon but he turns between them and destroys her instead. Especially if there had been more scenes of understanding between Jon and Drogon
  17. Zorral

    Watch, Watched, Watching: Getting Sneaky

    I love Dumas, but my love for his work didn't really develop until I got a whole more granular knowledge of French history and geography -- and European history and geography too (as opposed to the deep British - US viewpoint of history I began with). Oddly, my favorite has become this one: It's from the Napoleonic era, and is thus particularly of interest since his father was a free black man from St. Domingue, who won great fame and re-known as a general in the field during the Revolution, and then was basically hounded out of the French army by Emperor Napoleon, who shared entirely Josephine's racist viewpoints -- so much so he was determined to re-instate slavery in the now free republic of Haiti, formerly St. Domingue. Sir Walter Scott is the founding father of historical fiction as we understand it. But Dumas is surely the godfather. His principles of how to write historical fiction are something I re-read frequently.
  18. Tyrion1991

    Jon killing Dany doesn’t work for me

    Not if you know the ending. You won’t have the anxiety of not knowing and that foreknowledge would distance you from what you’re reading. You would recognise foreshadowing and see the red herrings. His books rely heavily on the unexpected and the twists; without them the events will just be compared to the show. Its very difficult to relate and sympathise with a persons struggle when you know they kill a million innocent people. This means her downfall would lack emotional weight. For the same reason that foreknowledge of the Red Wedding or Neds death would. More to the point, I actually doubt I would have signed on for the books or series with foreknowledge that her story is a tragedy intended to subvert the fantasy hero. I assumed that this was a dark, grounded and gritty fantasy drama. That’s not the same thing as being a satire of the fantasy genre. Whereas, Rand from Wheel of Time for example, overcomes his problem, Dany is set up to fail by George because “well Iam doing the opposite of the done thing”. That’s cute and all if he hadn’t essentially misled people into thinking she was a hero. If I read Fulgrim, I know what Iam in for. Not the case with Dany. The show definitely went further in its marketing and depiction of her. They knew she was going to turn but didn’t make that change until season 8 when the series was wrapping up.
  19. A Horse Named Stranger

    Football: pool in to the Final Spur of the season

    Meanwhile. Neuer just being back from injury for the cup final is bailing out Bayern big time.
  20. The ending is so bad, we could have 8 new seasons of trouble. No need for a prequel. Starting with the Master of Coins stealing money and dealing in brothels, the Seven followers revolting against their new king. All lords wanting the same deal as the North. And back to Meeren, Daario restoring slavery or deserting after huge armies from Volantis, Qarth and Ghis are attacking the city.
  21. TheFirstofHerName

    Was Sansa aiming for Jon?

    I suppose Sansa was right in her assessment of Dany but it still aggravates me the icy cold reception they gave Dany when she arrived at Winterfell. It appears all the Northerners would have shown more interest about her time in Essos and the birth of her dragons. No curiosity at all? This brings me back to Bran. Was he like Dr. Strange and could see all the possible outcomes and was manipulating everyone to achieve the desired end? Bran as the ruler is so unsatisfying because we really can’t get into his head and see his true POV.
  22. Rose of Red Lake

    Why Did the Show Turn on Jon?

    Yeah, perhaps. Although Arya isnt even in Dany's orbit. They didnt even have scenes together!
  23. RYShh

    Why Did the Show Turn on Jon?

    Sansa and Arya?
  24. Rose of Red Lake

    Why Did the Show Turn on Jon?

    She also said "If she can't respect me..." (then what?) and she also said dragons eat whatever they like (a threat). She also said SANSA killed Varys just as much as Dany did. WTF. I think there may have been rewrites because Emilia said Jon chooses someone over her. The final version didn't really make that clear.
  25. CrypticWeirwood

    Why Did the Show Turn on Jon?

    That would have ruined his only hope for freedom and peace. Their silence was their reward to him for saving the world. His true blood would have doomed him if it had become general knowledge.
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