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  2. Red Dragon10

    [Spoilers] E802 Discussion

    I thought it was more about them just being southerners (and therefore distrusted and unwanted in the north) than their colour. I think they feel the same way about Danaerys but they aren't going to spit at her. But maybe I'm wrong!
  3. Lord Varys

    Jenny of Oldstones by Florence + the Machine

    By the way - the books do reflect the original Jenny love triangle from DotL not just with Jenny and Duncan and Rhaegar, Lyanna, and Robert, but also with Catelyn, Littlefinger, and Lysa - and quite possibly with other love triangles further down the road. There is a reason, one assumes, that the dragon has three heads and one of those dragon heads is most definitely a woman... How George is going to play this is completely unclear at this point, of course, but there will be emotions complicating things - but in an actual believable way.
  4. MinscS2

    Bran: Who says there's an after? Jamie demise or Bran?

    Honestly, I could be wrong too. Wouldn't be the first time.
  5. LyrnaSnowBunnyAvenger

    Bran: Who says there's an after? Jamie demise or Bran?

    Unless I'm completely off my rocker (which would not be surprising), I'm around 98% sure it was mentioned in the show. It was not prominent, but it was mentioned both in the Maggy the Frog scene and Cersei said something about being killed by her little brother. I do not think I'm making this up, but I certainly could be wrong. That happens. If I am wrong, then yes I'd agree he certainly is in danger of being killed. If it was though, I still think he's going to be safe until he kills her.
  6. MinscS2

    SPOILERS: Rant and Rave

    No you most certainly isn't. The show is probably saving that "card" for when there's even more tension between Jon and Daenerys, so she can throw it in his face which will cause him to come right back to her and after that everything will be (mostly) fine between them. Cliche? Absolutely.
  7. Orphalesion

    Jenny of Oldstones by Florence + the Machine

    Not saying it's good. Just saying it could happen. Also "Blablabla the North will bow to no one blablablabla"
  8. SansaJonRule

    Kingslayer - Jaime kills the Night King

    He not only accepts Jaime. Remember how he fought against becoming the 3ER? He has also accepted his own fate, and perhaps even embraces it.
  9. Lord Varys

    Jenny of Oldstones by Florence + the Machine

    That is fake tension. If Jon were to leave the North with Dany Sansa could rule Winterfell and the North (in their name). That should make her very happy.
  10. .H.

    Killing of the NK

    I think this is the the most cogent analysis I've seen of this. I'd guess that the implication here would then be, perhaps, that Bran sacrifices himself to "negotiate" with the Night King, Jon is spared somehow in giving up any further ambition. Dany nearly is killed, until she realizes that ambition to tyranny is akin to death, and then the Night King and company go south, and kill Cersei and smash King Landing along with the Iron Throne, the "root" of the evil at hand. The Night King is satiated again, tyranny averted, they all go back to Locke's "state of nature" minus perverse "human ambition" to get in the way. I like it, because it's the kind of simplistic philosophy this show is likely aiming for...
  11. tws1978

    SPOILERS: Rant and Rave

    It´s amazing how this show now uses every soap writing cliché available. We have the classic "I don´t want to die a virgin" moment, we have filler scenes with people mostly recapping the plot, and we have fake misunderstandings and forced tension between main couple. Ever since they started to cut back to that fireplace meeting again and again, I knew they will have Dany/Jon as the last scene of the episode. And of course, even that moment is mostly just a condensed version of the story so far, but is interupted just before the meaty part, because it´s really the only conflict left and D&D knows both Dany/Jon haters AND lovers are waiting to see what way it resolves. And that´s why we most likely will not know until atleast episode 4, or more likely 5, when they will finally have the talk they should have now. Anyway, am I the only one who thinks Dany is already pregnant? Not only she seemed to have something like a small bump in the crypt scene, but the way they showed her mysteriously teary-eyed before Jorah entered her room earlier had to have a purpose. Of course, with the soapy writing and Jon fully ignoring her the whole episode I half expected she will ask Jorah to "warm" her before the night is over. I also wonder why they had to make Aria so smug all the time. I know it´s supposed to be part of their flirting banter, but if it was young lord acting this way and basically ordering his servant girl to "serve" him, everybody would cringe.
  12. MinscS2

    Bran: Who says there's an after? Jamie demise or Bran?

    If the Valonquar-prohecy had been prominent, or even mentioned in the show, I'd be willing to agree, but it isn't. I'll be very afraid for Jamies sake in the next episode, that's for sure, especially given how much screen time he and Tyrion got together in this episode.
  13. D-Shiznit

    Jon faction VS Daenerys faction

    Targaryens aren't immune to fire, only Dany is.
  14. Red Dragon10

    Saying Goodbye

    Of course sex is important to most people. But this is a TV show, and like you said, there is only time to show some things on screen. Lets say this is her last night alive. I would prefer that the showrunners had focused more on what I view as being most important to Arya's character development - her family and whatever shreds are left of her humanity. Can she come back from being a near-faceless man? Who is she now? What would the rest of her family think of how she has spent her days? Would they be afraid of her? I think in the limited time the show has left, I'd prefer those shreds of humanity be spent on other relationships, as I mentioned in my previous post. Each character has limited screen time left, and there are so many conversations and interactions I'd like to see Arya having instead of a throwaway sex scene that I *don't* view as integral to her development as a character. Obviously different people view different things as being important to each character. The showrunners/writers have left so. much. to happen and be discussed off screen. Really important stuff. I'd rather some of that be addressed than have Arya suddenly want to lose her virginity. I really can't explain it any other way...and I know I'm not alone in feeling this way. I guess part of it is that I just don't view Gendry as super important at this point and wish some of the side characters would just disappear to leave more screen time for the main characters.
  15. Prince of the North

    [Spoilers] E802 Discussion

    Hmm...maybe. But if iron actually can keep wights in check in that way it's strange that it doesn't have much effect on them when, you know, it's actually used to fight them. Also, there were several swords taken from the crypts...but I suppose we can assume they were replaced. And, finally, I wonder if Lyanna's tomb got an iron sword
  16. SansaJonRule

    Kingslayer - Jaime kills the Night King

    I like it!
  17. MinscS2

    Jon faction VS Daenerys faction

    Are we somehow led to believe that she is a "god" and that (all) Targaryens are immune to fire? That Daenerys specifically is immune to fire in the show isn't a statement that can be refuted, it's canon. But when has anyone tried to claim that Targaryens in general are immune to fire? And when has anyone, herself included, tried to portray her as a "god"? I've never heard anyone in the show state that at least. Edit: The only person I can remember has had the word "god" thrown their way is (ironically) Jon, by the wildlings.
  18. Masha's apron

    Who is Going to Die

    I have a feeling Theon cannot be killed by wights. Reason being...Bran seems to approve of Theon defending him in the Godswood. And it got me thinking about the Drowned God and the ritual words "what is dead can never die." I wondered whether those words are an old twisted echo of a truth about adherents to the faith of the Drowned God: that they are already "dead" so cannot be resurrected as wights when they've been physically killed, iyswim. If so, I wonder if the same may be true of Jon and Arya. Jon is resurrected dead, and Arya likely "died" at one point in the HoB&W. When you think about it, a number of characters could have have potentially "died" and been resurrected without an obvious signpost. Dany has survived a deadly furnace twice: the funeral pyre and Vaes Dothrak. Jorah and Sam potentially "died" of grayscale (can't be healed, then "suddenly" it can; highly contagious, yet Sam doesn't contract it). Bran potentially "died" when he was pushed out of the window. Davos potentially "died" at the BotBW or the BotB. This would fit with the resurgence of magical resurrection with Thoros and Beric, and Melisandre's ability to resurrect Jon. Resurrection has happened all over the land, but only the obvious instances are recognised. Which would mean the AotD are essentially fighting ... the dead of Westeros.
  19. Prince of the North

    SPOILERS: Rant and Rave

    Question: Can the dead in the crypts rise to attack the people sheltering there? If not, why not? *spit take* I would pay good money to see that!!!
  20. Ice Queen

    [Spoilers] E802 Discussion

    Every tomb is guarded by an iron sword to keep them there.
  21. LyrnaSnowBunnyAvenger

    Bran: Who says there's an after? Jamie demise or Bran?

    Until Jaime kills Cersei, I think he's safe. Now, of course that could happen in the next episode with the magic teleportation devices they have between King's Landing and Winterfell, but I find it unlikely. Yeah, I know there is debate as to who the younger brother actually is but Tyrion would be a boring option. Jaime would be awesome.
  22. MinscS2

    [Spoilers] E802 Discussion

    We've been told over and over that the northerners don't like "southerners" (Except for people from the Riverlands and the Vale it seems. They're fine.) I really haven't given thought before about how much lingering xenophobia and racism there is in that statement. Apparently they don't like people from Essos either, not even when they're coming to save your ungrateful ass. Weirwood trees apparently makes Bran "see" better, which is why he's always hanging around in the Godswood, and why he always grabbed them whenever he could in earlier seasons. But evidently he can still see when he's chilling in his wheelchair in the Winterfell courtyard. Best not to think to much about it. And don't mix the books with the show either, they're wholly separate entities at this point.
  23. Zorral

    Season 8: News, Spoilers And Leaks

    That, too . . . . She was very lucky not to have gotten pregnant from -- I can't even make myself type the name .... For all we know, maybe she can't get pregnant ... or he whose name I will not type or speak couldn't get anybody pregnant. To such questions we shall never have answers so it ultimately doesn't matter, I guess?
  24. Ice Queen

    Jon faction VS Daenerys faction

    I think one of her dragons gets her. Proving once and for all that she's not a god and Targs aren't immune to fire.
  25. Lord Varys

    [Spoilers] E802 Discussion

    Meera just disappeared. Didn't seem to be all that important. Howland was in the flashback because that was the scene in the books. He has no (important) role whatsoever in the show. But her doubts are in the control of the writers, too. This is fiction, not reality. Fictional characters behave the like you want them to behave, meaning that if the writers wanted it Dany would buy everything Jon threw at her. Which gets us back to fake tension. Westeros is both racist and xenophobic like hell (check out FaB for more), so that's completely in line with how the characters would behave when confronted by foreigners who are so visibly foreign. However, the idea that they are so isolationist that they would never want to be part of a larger realm makes little sense - nor does Sansa's silly claim that they retook the North all by themselves, etc. considering the North was always under the control of Northmen - Ned, Robb, Roose, Ramsay. Theon and Stannis don't really count since neither ever actually controlled or ruled the North. So this is all a lot of BS and fake tension again.
  26. Nowy Tends

    Season 8: News, Spoilers And Leaks

    I'm not sure Sansa is interested in sex/procreation after what she went through with Ramsay…
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