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  2. SeanF

    Moral of each characters story?

    Dany's story is simply that bad genes and getting the shitty end of the stick in life will destroy you.
  3. Corvo the Crow

    Who will be Lord Commander after Jeor and Jon were killed by mutiny?

    Dolorous Edd. He is the guy liked by almost everyone in CB, other castles would follow suit.
  4. Corvo the Crow

    Small Questions v. 10106

    Mullendores were listed as a bannermen of Tyrells in AGOT appendix, in AFFC they are bannermen to Hightowers. Will we get more changes such as this, or even new houses introduced? Also is there a possibility this is intentional; Since Hightowers were rewarded after Blackwater, perhaps this was their reward?
  5. Loose Bolt

    Breaking Down Military Commanders

    Why would I follow a coward who is hiding from danger? Or "medieval" commander had to prove to his men that he was strong enough to lead. If nominal leader gained a reputation as either weakling or coward it was very likely that some of his bannermen started to have ideas about rebellion.
  6. Corvo the Crow

    How destructive should the Others Invasion be?

    They would get as far south as Winterfell I think. After that, I don’t know if they can get up.
  7. Techmaester

    [Spoilers] Episode 806 Discussion

    I don't think any of the actors actually believe in Danys ending. Like they are trying to save face but they know it's garbage. Most of the people I know enjoyed watching Cersei and the Lannisters be decimated - it wasn't something they were horrified at. The hamfisted attempt to make the Dany=Hitler=Bad connection nobody believes and pretty much everyone finds Jon stabbing her during the kiss completely revolting. After the history that has been built up, kings landing just doesn't get much or any sympathy(nor should it). What ever D&D was trying to pull, they failed at it for most of the people I know. The only way this could have been received without outrage is if Dany was about to launch an attack on the North(which we didn't get other than speech which hinted at the possibility and no time-table) and Jon can't talk her out of it, even the whole assassin stunt he does still doesn't work.
  8. Wolfbynature

    Why didn't Lyanna write to Eddard?

    It´s because G.R.R. Martin made a mistake. It just was´nt convenient for him to add this story line to his version of the rebellion. It was just easier to write without it It´s hard to think that Lyanna did´nt try to intervene in a war that had the potential to either kill her or her lovers family. What it did finally. But if she wrote this letter. What would have changed? 1. It would have put Ned in a terrible Situation. He had to decide between the fate of his sister, his obligation to take revenge for his father and brother and his friendship to Robert Baratheon. To know that his fiancee betrayed him, would´nt have made things better for him. 2. It´s also hard to think that Lyanna would have done this without knowledge or backing by Rheagar. It would have been the launch of some secret negotiatiations. And from this point on, things are starting to get VERRRY complicated. And if we have gone so far, it would have been a very beneficial factor for Rheagar to tell Ned that Lyanna was pregnant with his child. 3. As mentionend, if Lyanna would have written (or messaged in any kind) to her brother, is is very likely that this whould have killed the hole "hidden prince" storyline. Therefore George Martin disliked this whole idea and decided to continue his story with a small (or not so small) logic error.
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  10. Juligen


    wow, thats a very interesting comment.
  11. ljkeane

    UK Politics: The End of May

    Yeah, I think we’re fucked. The lesson the Conservatives are going to take from this is that they need to take a harder line on Brexit.
  12. The Martells by poison. It's a woman's weapon and the snakes want blood.
  13. Aldarion

    Daenerys has always been a killer

    I just came across this video, and it turns out that there had been (visual) parallels to Hitler, specifically "Triumph of the Will", since early seasons:
  14. Well... Machiavelli did try to describe an 'ideal ruler'.
  15. I would certainly like to see a younger and more pretty Mel Brooks come up with “A History of The World of Ice and Fire”. A huge amount of source material
  16. RedEyedGhost

    Babylon 5

    When it first aired (and to this day) I thought that some of the effects were too cartoony, but it definitely didn't stop me from watching it!
  17. This isn't a requirement for a medieval/feudal kingdom. Or even early modern kingdoms. I would say 'citizenship' only became a requirement with republics and democracies. To wit: England (or the English Parliament) chose William of Orange as their king in 1688/1689. William was Stadtholder of the Netherlands. After Queen Anne, England chose George I of Hanover as their King. Hanover was part of the Holy Roman Empire (Germany, the first Reich) and was an Elector who chose the German (HRE) Emperor. King George's son (King George II) and grandson (King George III) held the Hanoverian title, including the Electoral title. George III was King during the American Revolution and also during the French Revolution and the subsequent Napoleonic Wars. Poland elected Duke (and Elector) Frederick Augustus of Saxony as King Augustus II in 1697. Saxony was in the Holy Roman Empire (Germany). His son was both Elector of Saxony and King of Poland. Emperor Karl V was already King of Spain when he was elected Holy Roman Emperor (German Emperor) in 1519. But he was born in Ghent, which was in the HRE, I believe. Empress Katherine II of Russia, though not elected, was born in Pomerania (Prussia) to the German family of Anhalt-Zerbst.
  18. Here's an argument many of you will enjoy - just look at the title! I regard the article as a bit scurrilous - clickbait if you will, but in a good way - it keeps the argument alive and moves it forward with legitimate arguments. Daenerys was right: King’s Landing had to burn
  19. I think Myrcella is already dead. For Tommen, I think it might be ironic if Mace and Randyll have him killed and present his body to JonCon and Aegon.
  20. RhaenysBee

    Elimination Game #??: Who Comes Out of GOT S.8 the Best

    Hurt tyrion
  21. Free Northman Reborn

    Master thread on what the Show means for the book plot

    Arya’s arc is to almost loase and then find her Stark identity again. The burying of Needle rather than destroying it. The future reunion with Nymeria. She will go from No one to Arya Stark again. And in that rediscovery of her identity the climax of her arc will be initiated - whatever that may be. Something to do with the Pack being a better option than the Lone Wolf.
  22. Ser Dips A lot

    Breaking Down Military Commanders

    There’s this fantasy element with Robert Baratheon fighting in the frontlines and even with Robb Stark going where the fighting is the thickest, and I think it’s foolish. A wise commander should sit back and make sure his men are well-situated on all flanks and properly reinforced before throwing himself into the mix. Actually, if I’m a Lord/King in command of a large force or any force for that matter, what business do I have leading a charge? As soon as that guy falls, it’s game over. Mass-routing ensues and chaos consumes your ranks. Not only until the moment comes when the enemy force has committed most or all of its units and you’ve situated your’s should you join the combat. Robert seems to get recognition as a great commander but he’s reckless to fight the way he does. He’s the guy you want to come in to turn the tide once the balance of power is in need of it.
  23. You are absolutely correct. The show didn't explicitly tell or show us. So we have to resort to our own head-canon answers.
  24. Maybe he could see how the future is changing based on his knowledge of the past and actions in the present.
  25. True. Cerseis's power should have been very brittle. We should have seen or hear of various rebellions against her. re. the Tarly's, Cersei (or Jamie) offered them the Wardenship of the South. The Tyrells in the show were going extinct, So their bannermen would be looking for The Next Thing (tm). It does seems that other Reach lords follow Randall Tarly in supporting Cersei. In particular the "marcher lords" on the borders with the Westerlands. Cersei does convince them that Dany may be mad like her father, that few in the Realm liked. And that Dany may just ignore the 'social contract' that the Crown has with the nobles. Quibble/Question : how is Cersei a kinslayer? It isn't. I just 'refuse' to be put on the defensive or be labelled. The phrase 'patching up problems' is an attempt to put the 'other side' on the defensive. we really don't have much to disagree about then. I never said season 8 was perfect. far from it, sadly. there should have been 10 episodes. or even 16 - 2x8 episode half seasons. I can see what the showrunners wanted to communicate, and think that the overarching story and story points are there. But the details ... well, the Devil is in the details, isn't it? That's fair. As I said, I can see the overarching story, but don't think that enough groundwork was laid or time taken to get from A to B, as it were. So I guess that I don't think that it was profoundly stupid. It just wasn't executed as well as it could have been. As part of that, I do think that Dany received too much 'good press' for too long. She was lauded up as an infallible heroine past when her faults should have been showing. An interesting article that I read mentioned the excised prophecies re. Dany and how their inclusion may have made Dany's 'other side' more obvious or explainable. Sadly, your are correct. They are not part of the show, so they have to be 'made up' or inferred. But that's part of the fun, eh? Oh but for the Mummer's Dragon! With 'fAegon' being excised, Cersei had to carry the brunt of his story. With Jon picking up the rest.
  26. Apoplexy

    How would you have ended it?

    I've wondered this for a really long time. I don't get it. It's super icky.
  27. So there’s a lot of talk about who the best military commanders of Westeros are, but not too much to be said about strengths and weaknesses. What are the top commanders best suited for is what I want to discuss basically. What are their specialties and where do they belong on the battlefield. I think if a good commander has any sense, no matter how skilled he is in combat, he belongs no where near the frontlines. The ideal commander should sit behind the center or commanding the rearguard. I know there is plenty of room for speculation on many generals’ particular skill sets and I welcome that on this thread. Here’s mine: 1. Stannis - Naval expert, Siege expert, Cavalry commander. He’s the best all-around commander bar none. Rearguard commander 2. Robb Stark - Guerrila deployment, Cavalry Commander. Center 3. Tywin Lannister - Field commander. Rearguard 4. Roose Bolton - Field commander, Rearguard 5. Robert Baratheon - Cavalry Commander. Vanguard 6. Randyl Tarly - Cavalry Commander, All-rounder. Vanguard/Center 7. Jon Arryn - Field Commander. Rearguard I didn’t put a lot of time into this but I think I did enough. What are your thoughts?
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