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  2. Mystical

    SPOILERS: Rant and Rave

    You have to give it to Arya. The patriarchy warped around her in every aspect of her life. What's her secret? I'm sure the other 99.99999999% of the female population, especially high borns, would love to know how she did it. She was free to be who she wanted to as a child (thanks to her parents being lax on her), she got to chose her own profession, she was never sexually threatened, guys are even courteous and ask if she is old enough to drink and she gets to chose who she has sex with. Why couldn't poor Sansa have even 1/10th of Arya's patriarchy shield? Prisoner, forcefully married, raped and brutalized, overlooked for 'promotion'. Doesn't seem fair to me.
  3. Roux

    Aren't Sansa & Tryion still legally married?

    In the book Sansa doesn't have anything to do with Boltons. They're Jeynes problem. Moot point when they decide to exchange the three girls. In the show I think the marriage wasn't ever annulled in the eyes of the faith and even in the eyes of the crown Littlefinger probably pulled one over and whatever they know isn't real either. BUT the crown is Cerseis now, so who knows what she would do about the legality. AND why would anyone want this to be real? Boltons are defeated. Tyrion and Sansa could join forces of they had a reason and say it was secretly consummated, therefore legitimizing and reinstating it. No reason to though. Let it die. Maybe (Mayyyyybe) if Dany finds out after Jon's identity is revealed? A stretch to keep the North. But you can't force the North, she's smart enough to know.
  4. Aline de Gavrillac

    Is death good? Why fight the Others?

    Craster was buying the right to live on the other side of the wall. As in the Other's side.
  5. teej6

    SPOILERS: Rant and Rave

    So apparently Jon does nothing about the life altering info he just received except tell Dany right before the end credits so D&D can check their suspense, tension, and cliffhanger quota for the episode. They are so predictable. The least they could have done is have Jon talk to Bran about it. If they cared anything about their characters, Jon should be having an identity crisis and should logically be rushing to talk to the all seeing demi-God next door (who also happens to be his kid brother/cousin) about it. But no, that’s too much of an effort in writing for D&D.
  6. kissdbyfire

    SPOILERS: Rant and Rave

    Maybe Littlefinger gave Tormund his jet pack. And Theon from KL! Excellent. Bold: yup, that’s in line w/ Bran telling everyone they don’t get tired! Kudos, GoT, on being consistent in your utter inconsistency! Both their reactions are ridiculous, infantile, silly.
  7. kissdbyfire

    SPOILERS: Rant and Rave

    You’re preaching to the choir. It’s a god-awful way to deal w/ it all. That’s why the show is so bad, every storyline is mishandled, no exceptions. Getting to film the Red Wedding? They sort of established that by killing a WW, the wights that one created die for real. Kill the boss and all the WWs will drop, and the wights. It will be underwhelming.
  8. Ser Scot A Ellison

    Tolkien 3.0

    I never said it ment we cannot do math or physics. I mean it’s interesting that we cannot completely describe either with certainty.
  9. Cas Stark

    Season 8: News, Spoilers And Leaks

    That's not even the problem. Nothing prevented them from doing 10 episodes, and they've certainly created their share of filler over the years. The problem is that scenes people have been waiting years to see, are short, fairly boring, and don't feel authentic. It feels like every scene is structured around some specific line reading or badass action, but none of it feels organic the way humans really interact, so something like Jon finally learning the truth is totally underwhelming, Jon and Arya meeting after years and years of tragedy, eh, whatever, on to the next bullet point.
  10. Elizabeth Warren: https://www.thecut.com/2019/04/elizabeth-warren-review-game-of-thrones-season-8.html#_ga=2.218631385.1500554987.1555891889-1153205886.1501001677
  11. Zorral

    SPOILERS: Rant and Rave

    This obsession with Jon and Daenerys's blood connection doesn't make any sense to anybody who knows the history of royalty, anytime and anywhere. As a certain medieval member of a royal family is quoted as saying to the pope, or maybe the pope saying to that member of royalty-- from either France or England, I don't recall which -- "None of us can marry anybody except our aunts and cousins." As for the obsessed fixation on the burning of the Tarlys, o puleez! What about her emails???????
  12. divica

    SPOILERS: Rant and Rave

    If we don t get how the most important characters of the show feel about one of the most important pieces of information in asoiaf what is the point of making the show? So that we can see how D&D invent a way to kill all the dead even though they butchered almost all of the magic elements in the books? Is seeing a bunch of people that can t express themselves fight in wars that interesting?
  13. Ibbison from Ibben

    Who's the worst human being, Tywin Lannister or Roose Bolton

    Roose commits atrocities, but advocates discretion and moderation while doing so. Tywin also commits atrocities, but was one of the most effective administrators in the history of Westeros. Many commoners considered the reign of Aerys II a golden age of peace and prosperity, largely due to Tywin's actions. There are many powerful people in the series that are far worse than either Roose or Tywin, but Tywin's atrocities were calculated, while Rosse's were for pleasure. I would rather live under Tywin.
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  15. Lady Fevre Dream

    SPOILERS: Rant and Rave

    I don;t disagree with probably any of that, I just know I'm not getting it here in this show. Maybe a little bit of it a bit later? Who knows? The only thing I do know is it will be rushed, half awkward and probably a bit empty.
  16. Mystical

    SPOILERS: Rant and Rave

    Heck why did Edd and Co. even go to Last Hearth at all? From CB all the way over to the other side of the North (isn't it shorter from CB to WF?) for no reason. And they arrived at the same time as the AotD and Tormund and his crew who came directly from Eastwatch. Did Edd borrow some super sonic eagles? Then they and Theon (who came all the way from KL) make it to WF before the AotD. Maybe the AotD takes time outs because they need to eat and sleep and that's why they are so slow moving? Or they do drills in between to practice formations? I also love how Jon doesn't seem bothered at all that he's been banging his aunt. A true Targ. And Dany's only concern after the reveal is the IT of course. Not that she finally found family, decent family unlike Viserys. Or that she was banging said family. Oh those whacky Targs.
  17. princess brittany

    Discussing Sansa XXXV: Queens of Ice and Fire

    i think dany and sansa will start to work together. i have a feeling sansa will stand up for jamie at the trial.
  18. Some excellent entries in round one! I will recognize some of my favorites before suggesting some new nominees for a second round of creative weapon-naming. Both hilarious and practical: So apt: Very true to character: I particularly like this Olenna suggestion but the Weese sword is also right on the money: Several excellent and thoughtful suggestions from Joey Crows. These are my favorites: Hot Pie has the potential to be such a badass, if he can get a hold of these weapons everyone imagines for him: I am drawn to the ironically humorous suggestions, such as this one: Perfect: For a new round of imaginary weapons for (apparently) swordless characters, here are some suggested names to get us started. Don't feel compelled to imagine swords for everyone listed and do feel free to provide for additional swordless characters, not already listed: Lord Wyman Manderly The Elder Brother Edmure Tully Doreah the dosh khaleen (are swords allowed in vaes dothrak?) Missandei Septon Meribald (remember, he is a broken man with sad memories of war service) Margaery Tyrell Moon Boy Tobho Mott Rennifer Longwaters (a descendant, he claims, of Princess Elaena Targaryen) Joyeuse Erenford (current wife of Lord Walder Frey. pregnant) Amarei Frey (Lady of Darry through her unconsummated marriage to Lancel Lannister) Pyp Satin Dywen (who has wooden teeth and can smell cold) Ser Patrek of King's Mountain Myranda Royce Grisel (former wetnurse for Petyr Baelish, now a servant at "the Drearfort" in the Fingers) The Weeper Yandry and Ysilla onboard the Selaesori Qhoran: the corpse pickled in brine Pretty Pig Crunch the ship's cook (a good cyvasse player; blinded by a kettle of hot grease during the storm, he died three days later) In Essos: Tagganaro the Sailor's Wife the waif The Kindly Man Xhondo Dhoru (a Summer Islander who pulls Sam Tarly from the canal and helps him book passage on the Cinnamon Wind) My initial thoughts for a few of these characters: Wyman Manderly - Weight Watcher Margaery Tyrell - Maidenhead or Marry Widow Joyeuse Erenford - Divorce Lawyer Pretty Pig - Acorn Hoover But maybe we need to move beyond swords and put some thinking into poisons and potions. We know about Milk of the Poppy, dreamwine, sweetsleep, the Strangler. Alchemists have a special recipe for wild fire. Melisandre keeps some powders and special effects items in her cloak. There is speculation in the forum about Jojen paste and we know that Sister Stew and Singer Stew and bowls of brown have unique ingredients. Mormont has a very exacting recipe for mulled wine. What are some imaginary poisons, recipes and potions that should be kept close to our armory of imaginary weapons, and which characters are most likely to use them?
  19. divica

    SPOILERS: Rant and Rave

    But the time to explore it was now. We have no idea if bran dies in ep 3... I don t know how it could make sense for the audience to care about how jon feels about all this or about why people thought lyanna was kidnaped and raped in ep 4 or after… Unless only danny's feelings matter... It being the final scene of ep 1 works for me. Even having sam guide the conversation in the IT direction given his state of min works. The problem is that they must start the next ep with jon talking about all he learned with someone. We have to understand what jon is feeling and what he is thinking! What doesn t work is for jon to just be ok but insecure about how to tell danny in the next ep! This goes behond bad tv. This is one of the most important secrets of asoiaf! It must be treated with the importance it deserves! Anyone who read the books wants to know how jon will react when he learns the truth! However in the show he has no reaction! It is awful... But that is the problem. He doesn t have a reaction. He just accepts it within seconds! And then the same thing appears to happen to danny in the end of this ep... And while this is huge for jon, it also completly destroys the persona that show danny has built. I don t care about which of them has the better claim. I want to see how they feel, how they deal with these news, what they think, how they get over it, how the starks will react... Given that they are in a relation and both respect each other them arguuing over has the best claim is stupid… Just marry and end the conflict...
  20. princess brittany

    Kingslayer - Jaime kills the Night King

    i think its sansa that is.
  21. Ibbison from Ibben

    the honeyed locusts...

    Strong Belwas was previously a pit fighter in Meereen. He has one rather peculiar personality trait that is amply demonstrated throughout the series - he loudly proclaims what his favorite foods are. Any native of Meereen familiar with pit fighting would likely know that Belwas loved spicy honeyed locusts. Any native of Meereen would also know that Daenerys despised Slaver's Bay cuisine. If someone was truly trying to poison Dany, locusts would be the last dish they would try. Belwas was the target of the poisoner(s). The likely perpetrators were the women of House Pahl, which is now extinct in the male line, partly due to Belwas. It is well known that poison is a woman's weapon, after all.
  22. Error-504

    Kingslayer - Jaime kills the Night King

    A lot of misunderstanding in this thread. Jamie's atrocities against the North, happened in a time of war. So if fighting on the other side is a crime, why have they forgiven the Umbers and Karstraks. The North should have no major gripes against Jamie. He had nothing to do with the Red Wedding, nor did he have anything to do with the beheading of Ned Stark. Dany and Jon even tolerating a trial is laughable. Did they not just come to an agreement with Cersei for a truce, and to fight the WW's together? Jamie is on trial for being the only one that honored that agreement? It makes zero sense. No one knows he pushed Bran out the window, with the possible exception of Bran himself. I am not sure why people think this. The one conspiracy in regards to Bran was the attempted assassination after the fall. There is no reason to believe anything other than Bran just fell. I love the idea of Jamie being the PtwP. I think he is the third head of the dragon. Did anyone notice the change in facial expressions during the preview of his trial scene? he looked suddenly shocked, I wonder if he turns his head tto look at Bran at this moment, and what is being said. I think the look on Jamie face is shock, as Bran is standing up for him, and that is the last place he expected help to come from.
  23. Lady Fevre Dream

    SPOILERS: Rant and Rave

    LOL I thought you'd like that.
  24. Lady Fevre Dream

    SPOILERS: Rant and Rave

    Tormund and Edd and Co left Last Hearth, took the GO AROUND route from the Army of the Dead, and made it to Winterfell.
  25. kissdbyfire

    SPOILERS: Rant and Rave

  26. Lady Fevre Dream

    SPOILERS: Rant and Rave

    Tormund or somone actually mentioned having to GO AROUND the AotD, LOL Like, ya know, going AROUND Moat Cailin, LOL
  27. Proficiency

    Elimination Game #??: Who Comes Out of GOT S.8 the Best

    Hurt Rhaegal / Heal Sandor
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