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  2. RFL

    A season of Jons betrayal

    Even when she was there with dragons there was open revolt within the city that she could not deal with and a direct attack on her life.
  3. I normally love programmes about how inventive TV shows are made but I haven't been able to watch any of the GoT since season 5 because of D7D's moronic pronouncements.
  4. Hippocras

    A Game of Thrones movie?

    I hope not. If people are so distressed about the pacing of the last two seasons, the story would need to be reduced to nothing to fit into a movie. I watched a few feature films recently that received very positive reviews. They were at LEAST as filled with plot holes and poor character depth as the later part of GoT but people's expectations are just different for movies because not as much time and thought and love invested.
  5. All that was missing was Bach's Toccata and Fugue in D Minor Nice Dante catch. I'd go a step further and say it evoked Medusa over the gates of Dis
  6. Sophelia

    UK Politics: Awaiting MV3

    If you choose your area on this website, you get quite a nice interactive tool down the bottom to see how many seats go to who if you change the percentage votes by reducing one and increasing another. https://www.bestforbritain.org/vote I didn't actually find it that useful for working out who to vote for, but it was a good visualisation of the tipping points for different outcomes.
  7. If the entirety of your argument is that HBO should have done a better job giving me what I wanted because I am an HBO customer only because of GOT you kind of don't understand how negotiation works. HBO has ended GOT - if that was the only reason you are a customer they have already taken that away. Its not the first time we have had a suspect ending that left viewers unsatisfied. They did fade to black in the Sopranos. Tell good stories and let the chips fall where they may. This was good story. It was not a satisfying ending because we are left wondering if Dany comes back. Being raised from the dead after being stabbed by mutineers has already been established. Does Jon join the nights watch or go with the wildings. What about Arya? Is Sansa happy now? What do the unsullied and Dothraki do now? What about Mereen? The prophecies? But because all these open ends are left it does what the story teller wanted (I think). It reminds us that these stories are just stories in part of time with lots more before (see the size of the citadel and the white book) and lots more coming after. This time in history is not special its just its time in history with its own stories to tell.
  8. Martyn Bull

    A season of Jons betrayal

    Do we know what the net effect of her conquests in Essos are? She conquered and left, do we know that whatever system she tried to imply still exists, that there will not be another revolt? It worked as long as she was there with three dragons and an army to keep anyone not agreeing with her in check - will it stay that way when she leaves?
  9. A bowl of brown

    Anyone Going To Watch The Prequel Series

    Jane goldmans a good enough writer that im definitely prepared to give it a go
  10. Tywin et al.

    MCUniverse: Phase Four and Beyond(er) **maybe spoilers**

    The internet has found a new way to advance Marvel’s future: Cast Danny DeVito as The Wolverine!
  11. Jon Snow, First Ranger like his uncle Benjen. He would his time ranging to hang out with Tormund and banging free folk women.
  12. Forlong the Fat

    The Book of The Kingsguard - Help Me Decide

    He was a main character and then he died, despite being brave, admirable, just, and strong, among other things. If you retroactively say that means he wasn't a main character, you are making a completely circular argument.
  13. Forlong the Fat

    The Book of The Kingsguard - Help Me Decide

    First, you have no evidence that they stopped, or that others' did. Second, where the entries start, in addition to contradicting your claim that the entries only address actions while serving on the KG, gives us some information about what the purpose is, and where they would naturally stop. The purpose is to provide an account of who was on the KG and the noteworthy things they did in their lives. And yes, it would be completely natural to note, for example, that Lucamore was ultimately slain in battle against some king beyond the wall. Yet again, you have no shred of evidence to support he idea that you wouldn't. There's no law, no rules about the entries, no other bit of information, except the examples I've provided from the very few entries of which we have any evidence. You've just made something up in your head to manufacture a complaint.
  14. Kaapstad

    Jon killing Dany doesn’t work for me

    Well considering how he manipulated everyone into making him king, he likely knows why him not handling the business is probably for the best. He can see the future after all.
  15. Apoplexy

    The Book of The Kingsguard - Help Me Decide

    I can do everything under the sun!! Jokes apart, can you explain to me how Ned Stark was a main character for the current set of events?
  16. Leofric

    Trailer Thread V

    The armor mesh beneath the skin made me think of an old book by Keith Laumer, A Plague of Demons, though the hero in that book was fighting aliens, not robots from the future, though robots do become a factor.
  17. TheFirstofHerName

    Jon killing Dany doesn’t work for me

    I love this interpretation of Jon Snow’s ending from the Nerdist. When he arrived at Castle Black, Jon was wearing his Stark clothing, but soon was back in his black Night’s Watch garb. He also appeared to have been reappointed as Lord Commander, as we saw him standing on the raised platform above the mixed group of wildlings and his fellow brothers in the courtyard. It makes sense they named him their leader again after Dolorous Edd died fighting the dead. When Jon walked through the crowd the wildlings and his fellow brothers parted for him with reverence. Jon saved the freefolk by letting them come through the Wall, and without his efforts to unite everyone at Winterfell, the Night’s Watch and the world would have fallen to the White Walkers. Everyone there knew what Jon had done for them, and how he was murdered at that very castle and sent back there after killing Daenerys, all for doing the right thing. If any two groups know Jon got a raw deal with his sentence, it was the wildlings and Night’s Watch. The final scene of the show proved that. There was no need for Jon to escort the wildlings through the gate. The lands beyond the Wall aren’t just free of enemies now, they are free of anyone. Those who stayed behind when Jon brought them to Castle Black were surely consumed by the army of the dead, and Tormund doesn’t need directions on how to traverse his homeland. As they continued out past the Wall amid signs of a thawing winter, Jon was surprised to hear the gate behind him closing. There was no reason to shut it. The wildlings and Night’s Watch will likely have a friendly alliance for a generation, since they all fought and lived together. The gate was shut because the Night’s Watch was letting Jon go. They know he didn’t deserve a fate of living at the Wall defending Westeros against nobody. His brothers were thanking him for everything he had done for them and the Seven Kingdoms by freeing him of any responsibilities to it. We thought Jon might make that decision on his ownbefore the finale. He had told Tormund he wished he was going with him, and it was the only place he had ever found true happiness, when he was with Ygritte. Instead, it appears the Night’s Watch made that decision for him. As Jon realized what they were doing for him, a slight smile came across his face, before he headed out into the forest, another one of the freefolk who bends no knees and plays no part in any future game of thrones. Tyrion said there would still be a Night’s Watch because “the world will always need a home for bastards and broken men,” but Jon is neither. He was a good man who always tried to do right by the Realm, no matter the personal cost, and in the end he was rewarded for his service by finally being allowed to stop living for everyone else. He was given his freedom and the chance to find peace. “And now his watch is ended.” Game of Thrones ended well for Ned Stark’s children. All of them.
  18. He surely has not appeared interested in stopping it. Even during the council meeting at the end he's like - "yeh just handle the business of the kingdom without me". He's just replacing Robert's drinking and whoring with wharging off and looking at things in history that he wants to. Its not like he even has proven to be good at telling the stories that Tyrion argues are so important.
  19. Honestly the small council scene would have worked better as part of the montage. That scene was awful.
  20. Lord Stackspear

    Your favorite individual acting performance

    The fact that anyone is able to believe Dany’s turn with such terrible writing is a testament to just how well Emilia Clarke acted this season. Don’t forget how much of her acting was done in green screen studios. Lena Heady is by far the winner for the series, but she just didn’t have enough screen time this season for her to have significantly stood out. Of all the complaints I have about this season, the acting is not one of them. I can’t think of an actor that did not do a great job with the script they were given.
  21. Martyn Bull

    Daenerys should have supported Jon’s claim

    And so? Does he want to claim the throne? Does he want to gather army and march against Cersei? He doesn't even want his right. And so??? The rest of the argument is in the sentence before the one you quoted: Dany has been styling herself as "the rightful ruler of the 7 kingdoms" for a long time. Learning that Jon is a "rightfuler" ruler actually takes away the "right" to this title from her. She's of course not obliged to help Jon in a reconquest of the throne, but in her logic, the title "rightful ruler of the 7 kingdoms" should pass to Jon. If he doesn't want to try to use it, she is only another conqueror.
  22. Techmaester

    A season of Jons betrayal

    Was her net effect in Esso not good? Compare the prior leadership and everyone will agree she was objectively better. I agree that we don't have control over these stories but we do have our opinions on the people within them. The final episodes desperate attempt to justify Jons underhanded killing of her failed, at least to me. And apparently a lot of other people agree. It was a middle finger to a substantial number of viewers. I probably won't bother watching another GoT spinoff series.
  23. A Horse Named Stranger

    UK Politics: Awaiting MV3

    So earth has opened up, hell froze over, and devil is giving free sleigh rides to kids, and Theresa May has announced to step down as party leader, after the Trump state visit to preserve her dignity. Just when I thought you Brits had no humour.
  24. Effective rating of 3.25 based on the current poll.
  25. Forlong the Fat

    The Book of The Kingsguard - Help Me Decide

    Can you be any more circular?
  26. Dragon in the North

    Best and worst TV series finales, and where does GoT rank? *Spoilers*

    Showing is better than telling. They showed us where all the characters ended up. Only, 3 of them were with a montage.
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