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  2. lancerman

    Moral of each characters story?

    Dany: If you justify violence and atrocities based on absolute beliefs in your ability to judge righteousness eventually you will be able to justify any level of cruelty as being for the greater good. Jon: Knowing enough to know that he "knows nothing" and isn't one to decide what is just and good for everyone else and how dangerous it is to believe you are. Jamie: Nobody is completely good or completely evil. Jamie spent the whole show doing both great and evil things and one great evil act like attempting to kill Bran cancelled out his goodness, and selflessly fighting the army of the dead didn't cancel out his evilneess. Tyrion: You can't serve both idealism and justice as hopeful as you might want to be. Arya: Revenge is a path that has no future.
  3. This is just silly. Westeros has, at minimum, had 2,000 years of continual settled civilization. They could build there own traditions and wouldn't need to import much.
  4. Id presume most civil law is religious law and inherited from religious laws.
  5. Oi! The Conan films are awesome! In a super cheesy and hilarious way, but still... GoT wishes it could lick the soles of Conan’s boots.
  6. Raksha 2014

    Samwell as Grand Maester

    Given who attended the Dragonpit meeting (mostly Starks, Stark friends, relatives, allies) and what they decided, and why anyone other than Sansa listened to Tyrion, much less voted in his choice for king (To the rest of Westeros, Tyrion is the Kin-slaying regicide Imp), I'm sure that the writers didn't put much thought into the scene.
  7. We know that Gilly was probably a rape survivor; since I doubt she willingly slept with her father; and she managed to survive and eventually find love and happiness with another, kinder, man. I've always thought that Sandor's saying that he "should have fucked her bloody" were more to goad Arya into mercy-killing him than a true desire to physically damage Sansa. Did TV-Sandor sexually desire Sansa? Probably; but he did not attempt to rape her and might well have been willing to wait for sexual intercourse until she reciprocated his desire, or not tried to seduce her at all (since he might have tried to take her back to her mother and brother as a maiden). (I'm convinced that book-Sandor did have sex on his mind when he came to Sansa's room during the Battle of the Blackwater, whether or not Sansa was willing; but Sansa persuaded him not to hurt her, reaching whatever decency was within him) I hope that Sansa is able to find a husband she can respect, if not love; and enjoy being a mother of the next generation of Starks. Hopefully she will have a long and ultimately prosperous reign.
  8. That’s exactly right. Calling someone “Abe” became sort of a pvt joke to describe someone who might not be all there. I love Mel Brooks, and Young Frankenstein is absolutely brilliant, Monty Python level of brilliant! ETA: and that photo... turns out it illustrates so well what’s happened to the show, don’t you think? Even each actor’s face matches up perfectly. So Mel Brooks is even brilliant in unwittingly helping to poke fun at GoT!
  9. Nictarion

    Watch, Watched, Watching: Getting Sneaky

    Yeah, I watched it last night as well, and also found it pretty mediocre. The director (David Gordon Green) has mostly done comedies with Danny McBride, but he also did a drama with Nicholas Cage called Joe that I really liked, so I had high hopes for this, but it was pretty meh overall.
  10. R2D

    Your biggest what if?

    What if Renly had backed Stannis?
  11. The Anti-Targ

    Video Games: Devils Die Twice

    Noob mistake, I thought Divinity: Original Sin was the first.
  12. Count Balerion

    Calling all Picts! : Pictionary 44 : A Nightmare of Spring

    @Jez Bell, please respond!
  13. The Anti-Targ

    U.S. Politics: You Didn't Think It Would Be So Easy, Did You?

    This is exactly why it's not a priority, for those who believe. The world is going to hell in a hand-basket irrespective of what puny little humans try to do. It's when Jesus comes again that there will be a big reset button pushed somewhere and the faithful few will find themselves back in the garden of Eden in blissful paradise, free from war, hunger, pollution and disease. So it's not a case of not believing in climate change, for some, climate change being real or not is not important to the fate of humanity. Of course politically you can't say climate change is irrelevant because Jesus will save the true believers, so the political rhetoric kind of has to be that climate change is a hoax, or if real is not man-made, in order to provide a non-batshit crazy rationale for opposing action. Instead rejecting science is just plain old crazy, and politically plain old crazy can work.
  14. The Winged Shadow

    Cricket 34: Bring Your Own Sandpaper

    All these washout matches don't bode well. How shit is the weather around this time at UK? What are the likelihood of lots of cancelled matches?
  15. Jaime Lannister. Although I'm not sure if the 999th or the 1000th is a more important number.
  16. The Anti-Targ

    U.S. Politics: You Didn't Think It Would Be So Easy, Did You?

    So, lead the world by example into safety, and help others to make the change. Or follow the world over the climate catastrophe cliff. If policy is going to be formulated on how much other countries are going to enrich themselves at the expense of the USA in the decades before everyone is screwed. Then we're already screwed. Theoretically the Paris climate accords were meant to hold everyone to the same expectations to do their fair share to minimize climate change. Talking about the GND as if it exists in a vacuum where no one else is obligated to do anything is just a lie.
  17. The Bard of Banefort

    GRRM on Successors

    I realize that no one wants George to extend another series, but I think the second volume of Fire and Blood could easily cover Aegon III through Daeron II and still be hundreds of pages long. Then we would be able to read more Westerosi history without spoiling Dunk and Egg. I don't expect that to happen, but I would love it if it did.
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  19. It appears to me that posters on this thread are talking about a few different things. If I understand you correctly, you don't disagree with people like darmody concerning some big problems with the writing in GoT: I maintain that this is important and fundamentally sound criticism. Some people, in this thread and elsewhere, are severely critical of D&D's efforts, finding their writing to be often poor and sometimes shoddy. Others are critical, but less severe. I belong to the former group. I believe, for example, that the ascension of Cersei Lannister to the throne and her continued hold on power is flat out ridiculous. It would almost certainly not happen in a quasi medieval world like Westeros, and certainly not in the way D&D portray it. One does not need to explain how magic works to validate this position. Another, more general, issue, is your assertion that "You cannot have sociologically driven drama in a fantasy world if the fantastic is not consistently defined." I'm not convinced of this. There are different approaches to magic in fantasy literature. Briefly, we can look at two basic ones (noting that there may be other approaches and various combinations of approaches). Magic could be a sort of alternate science, something that is part of the structure of a created world. This is true in the work of one of my favorite authors, Ursula K. Le Guin. It's true in those worlds where you have colleges and academies of magic (e.g. Harry Potter). Another approach is for magic to be a wild element, something hard to explain, perhaps inexplicable. In this case, it might be something on the fringes, something out there in the mysterious east and/or the frozen north. This, I believe, is the way it's presented in GoT. Magic comes and goes in the world, or at least the world of the Seven Kingdoms. It intrudes and disrupts. This can mean different things, and matters can be handled in different ways, both by authors and by the characters they create. I'd say that your assertion is true in the former case but false in the latter.
  20. Lord Varys

    Star Trek: Picard

    I really want to see Patrick Stewart in that role again. Can't help myself. Looking really forward to this! Hope they rectify that Romulus nonsense - one can make something out of that nonsense. And Romulus is most definitely not the Romulan Empire. But the really pointless nonsense was indeed the destruction of Vulcan. I could still strangle those morons for that. One hopes they also don't ruin all the DS9 aftermath stuff. The Dominion is something one could still use, even if has been ignored for twenty years or so.
  21. Ran

    Small Questions v. 10106

    @Corvo the Crow How do you mean, vassal structure?
  22. CCRArabians

    How would you have ended it?

    I'd combine this with this youtube alt ending. NK should be the last, most important battle. And if she takes King's Landing first, it gives time to show increasing friction with 'the north', and time to show increasingly unbalanced reactions and punishments from Danaerys. And maybe even allow Bran to show some redeeming qualities or powers.
  23. Skahaz mo Kandaq

    Population of planetos after the events of ASOIAF

    It's unlikely for the Others to make it to Essos. The continent of Westeros will take the biggest loss from the Others. Most of the people will die. The deaths in Essos will come about because the slaves will fight for freedom while the masters will fight to keep them enslaved. Most of the deaths will be the masters and those who support them. Thousands of mercenaries will die.
  24. Corvinus

    Babylon 5

    Finally managed to finish the show. Season 5 was slow at first, and the emo telepath plot wasn't that interesting, especially since it pretty much fizzled out after Byron. The season got going with the Centauri/Drakh plot, and had a nice bittersweet ending. It was sad to see Londo head towards his prophesied destiny, though it was disappointing that the show's end skipped over that. I haven't seen any of the films, I wonder if any of those cover that, and also what happened to G'Kar.
  25. Lord Stackspear

    Samwell as Grand Maester

    Just another example of D&D not giving a s*** about the story any more. The only explanation is that King Bran commanded it so it is so. Yeah, that’s always the best way to kick off your reign - making exceptions to long enduring customs and rules that govern one of the oldest institutions in your kingdom all so you can have your own hand picked GM because, well, you’re king and you get what you want.
  26. Brandon was witnessed in the act of threatening to harm the Targaryens. That is a crime punishable by death. Obviously, Rickard was lured to KL because the king believed he was plotting. That is all the evidence needed for the time.
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