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  2. Apoplexy

    The Book of The Kingsguard - Help Me Decide

    That is one chapter. I am speaking wrt to book 1. If your contention is his story arc was incomplete, could you explain to me how was it incomplete? What more should have been included in his story arc?
  3. Apoplexy

    The Book of The Kingsguard - Help Me Decide

    Agreed. But again, HIS CHILDREN are central to the current set of events. The point I was making was that his story arc was pretty much complete when he died. He was central to RR. During the events that took place in 298 AC, his role was essentially to die and set events in motion.
  4. Dany should have given the horns sign as she took off.
  5. No. We are arguing about Sansa being queen of just the North (as I claim), or also queen of the Riverlands and maybe the Vale too (as some people believe...). But it's true that Sansa could have used of a bit of diplomacy when she spoke to Edmure... for somebody who is supposed to have learned to play the game, she has a habit of attacking, antagonizing and undermining in public her allies and relatives, people whose help she may need in the future... It's the same as when she felt the need to remark that Bran's dick won't get up while he was being chosen king, bitched about how much Dany's troops ate (troops that came to help defend Winterfell), or antagonized Jon, her king, during councils. She has the subtley and cunning of a sledgehammer...
  6. I was talking about what IS in that particular scene with the Hitler imagery where Dany was talking about the future. Dany wasn't on world conquest in the past, just the IT. Bold - it is a bit of a brain pretzeler. You'll never hear me argue that anything relating to Dany's turn isn't terrible. But what's there is there. It was world conquest with endless innocent deaths laced together with a messianic narrative. They gave themselves only minutes to get across where Dany was headed and there was no room for anything but anvil-upside-the-head obviousness.
  7. St Daga

    Heresy 222 vindication

    This is interesting. Thanks for sharing. As much as I connect Ned as Lord of Winterfell to Hades and the crypts to the underworld of mythos, this temple concept is something I have missed. I need to read some more and see what direction my thoughts fly off into. If gifts and sacrifices are important, what do we see left as gifts in the crypts? Ned does say that he brings Lyanna flowers when he can? Are these actual flowers or is it something else? If iron is a ward in the Winterfell crypts, could it also be used as a ward at the wall? There are iron gates within the cells in the wall, I think. What are other uses of iron within the wall? Yes, this knowledge could come from Melisandre. When Beric first was raised from the dead, Thoros gave the kiss of life and said some words. As far as we know, he never has used a sacrifice for his magic in bringing Beric back. The time we see with Arya (although that is honestly off page, so who knows what really happened) there is no obvious sacrifice in play. But perhaps if Stannis is dead and has been dead for some time, unlike Beric who was fresh-dead, then the need for a sacrifice is more apparent. I am trying to think if there could have been a sacrifice in play in Stoneheart's revival? I do think that Aegon/Jinglebell served as a blood sacrifice of sorts, so maybe this is what made Stoneheart rise after three days. Maybe this will be a possibility for Stannis if he dies days before an attempted resurrection. Hmm! I need to think on this a bit.
  8. Dragon in the North

    Rank your 2019 TV shows throughout the year

    1. Game of Thrones 2. Cobra Kai 3. Doom Patrol 4. Brooklyn 99 5. A Series of Unfortunate Events 6. Cloak and Dagger 7. The Umbrella Academy 8. The Punisher
  9. Nightwish

    Daenerys should have supported Jon’s claim

    No, she is not, they are related. She is the next in line.
  10. King Jon Snow Stark

    So once again...the writers forgot about Gendry

    Riverrun is part of the 6 kingdoms not the North.
  11. I gave it a 7. GRRM told us that he wanted to end this in a way that left no interpretation about what happens afterward, and that obviously takes a little bit of screen time. So I regarded 8.5 and the beginning of 8.6 as the grand climactic ending that we’re all accustomed to and then treated the final 40 minutes of 8.6 as essentially bonus material that allowed us to bid a fond farwell to a show that’s been like a home away from home for many of us. So many characters, subplots, and such enormity of scale that it would’ve been impossible to wrap everything up pristinely and satisfy even half of the viewers’ desires. Not to mention, we weren’t going to receive another grand battle, so Dany’s demise had to end quickly & quietly. Neither the time nor budget existed to extend the season. E3 & E5 probably cost as much to produce as all of S3 combined. The Long Night alone had already occupied 11 weeks of shooting, and it mentally & physically wore the cast & 750 crew members out. “Nothing can prepare you for how physically draining it is,” actress Maisie Williams, who portrays Arya Stark on the show, told EW. “It’s night after night, and again and again, and it just doesn’t stop. You can’t get sick, and you have to look out for yourself because there’s so much to do that nobody else can do… there are moments you’re just broken as a human and just want to cry.”
  12. Thank you for clarifying, but I didn't pull that out of context. You said "But what's there is there. It was world conquest with endless innocent deaths laced together with a messianic narrative." When you're talking about what is "there," you're talking about what IS, not what will be, and that is the antecedent of "It" in the next sentence. So perhaps you could look to your own clarity of writing instead of telling me I took it out of context. But whoever's fault it is, we miscommunicated: stuff happens.
  13. Daemon The Black Dragon

    So once again...the writers forgot about Gendry

    The only one who showed arrogant behavior in that meeting was Sansa. Every meeting we know of that's deciding on who should be King or Heir to the King of Westeros, people either put there own name forward or someone else does. Even if Edmure had zero percent chance of being King, Sansa had absolutely no right to tell a high Lord from a different region to basically shut up and sit down. How did the show suppose to make us think Edmure was a incompetent loser or arrogant again?
  14. RhaenysBee

    Elimination Game #??: Who Comes Out of GOT S.8 the Best

    Arya Stark 5- -   Drogon 25   Sandor Clegane 18     Tyrion Lannister  24
  15. It's pretty awesome and is weirdly more effective than the original scene.
  16. Leto II doesn't come into it until book 2, Dune Messiah. But you'll get the picture.
  17. I'll look for that. I sympathize with the Starks, but the way they're being pushed as the good guy family really doesn't fit with grey character thing. And it's boring.
  18. Yep, I agree with that. I edited my post above to not give too much away in case Lollygags hasn't read the story, but the messianic talk around Dany is strikingly similar. All you have to do is think about Paul's jihad to realize what Dany is. Bran as Leto II is a little frightening to think about. The physical descriptions of Cat and Ned even match those of Jessica and Leto.
  19. I am sure D&D didn’t intend to say “looks guys, here is Hitler”, as much as wanting to make her look tyrannical in a cinematic way, and they don’t have more diverse visual references or creativity than using the same nazi documentary that Star Wars already pulled.
  20. That is not true at all. Read the books. Barristan certainly didn't think this. Nor did Tyrion. Or Jorah, or Kevin Lannister. Or Doran Martell for that matter. Males only have a better claim that is it.
  21. St Daga

    Heresy 222 vindication

    I wonder how the storm around Winterfell lines up around the happenings of Jon at the wall? He would be the closest person of Stark blood to Winterell without actually being in Winterfell. Could his moods/emotions be driving the weather? I am also curious about Sansa, whom I think might be the only Stark child born in the winter, might be affecting the weather in the vale? We have Bran in the cave north of the wall and it seems like there is a heavy snowfall outside the cave's entrance. Even Robb's mood is down as he moves toward the Twins earlier in our story, and we get heavy, heavy rainfalls that impede travel and cause great flooding within the riverlands themselves. (this might be to early in the story to matter ) Arya in Braavos seems to be aware that it is snowing in the riverlands. Could Arya's connection to Nymeria be strong enough to have a subtle effect on the weather? Also, there are interesting hints of mist that surround Arya in Braavos, although her mood doesn't seem to be particularly poor. Perhaps there is nothing really hinted out with most of these things, but with Jon, who has more of the north in him than his brothers, perhaps does have some weather pull. It's already snowing quite a bit before his stabbing, so that could coincide with the Winterfell blizzard, but perhaps that was only a precursor to a big weather system? Thoughts?
  22. I'm talking about what Dany is planning for the future as per her words and the imagery. That'd be clear if you hadn't pulled my words out of context. The children of KL aren't innocent? Ok. I emphatically disagree with punishing those who aren't directly responsible and without certainty that they are responsible. Dany's symbolic prosecutions no doubt left some of those who were guilty of the actual crime rolling and laughing their backsides off that someone else paid and they got away with it completely. She looked like an idiot to them. Commit whatever crime you want, just make sure it looks like someone else did it. She won't look too closely because justice is only what feels good. The real message to everyone was that she's not just to individuals, places no value on an individual's guilt or innocence, and that even the innocent can't trust her to be fair. It feels good in the moment, but isn't smart for the long term.
  23. RFL

    A season of Jons betrayal

    The burning of Kings Landing (not just the Red Keep) after surrender or the execution of prisoners after surrender?
  24. Edmure threatens Brann, Drogon reappears and torches him. We are reminded that most rulers are more alike than not.
  25. Tygett Lannister

    Aegon VI

    I mean it is Ollena who has strong influence on him and she isn't dumb. And it is likely Tyrells would look to switch sides again, but Aegon can't exactly marry Arianne and Margery at the same time.
  26. Nowy Tends

    So once again...the writers forgot about Gendry

    What does it suppose to mean? Bran is on acid. What is he going to do if Edmure tells him "Nephew, sit down, errr sorry I mean STFU"
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