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  2. Blaer Dayle

    Edmure Should Have Got It

    If you think that it's okay to ignore a direct order to not engage in battle, simply because the ends (capturing a mill) justify the means (though even then, they don't, since they directly hurt the war effort) then you don't understand war strategy, at all. Let alone the supreme unquestionable rule of absolute monarchy in medieval society. If a general tells a platoon to hold a ridge, and they instead decide that the nearby village is a better goal; then they take it, but the enemy catches the special ops team, that was undercover, behind enemy lines, as a result, that platoon is reprimanded, and dressed down. They don't get commendations for their actions. Strategy is on a need to know basis. And Edmure didn't need to know. Period.
  3. yes ok, I past that point as you saw... what more to say? it had potential but never made a true statement about it. A positive or realistic one. Yes, this is a very good observation.
  4. Essan

    Are the starks finished?

    Fine, for now. But there will never be another Stark. The name ends with the current generation. Interestingly, the Lannisters may well survive. Even if the sole surviving male did nothing of interest or note in recent years.
  5. Dynas

    Loose ends

    We did not actually. There is an interview with GRRM where he says that the return of dragons represents the return of magic to the world.
  6. I came to a realization in the last couple of years that I'm really into crime fiction, particularly mysteries, and it's not a new thing for me. I have memories of reading some poirot in my early teens and a series called the Three Investigators which I guess is like the Hardy Boys or Nancy Drew but not as well known(?). Rarely see anyone mention it. For the longest time I thought scifi and fantasy was the only thing I was into. I must have blotted those early books from memory for whatever reason. I've been correcting it recently but it doesn't help the TBR pile especially with so many mystery series being multiple books long. Of the series mentioned here I can wholeheartedly recommend the Gamache series by Louise Penny and the Falco series by Lindsey Davis. I'm multiple books into both series and they are up there with other favourite series in fiction like the Vorkosigan saga. Esteemed company. Gamache is fantastic. Really atmospheric and evocative with some fantastic characters. It's this mix of cosy atmosphere with obviously much darker undertones. I want to live in Three Pines and I want to be friends with Gamache and co. Likewise the Falco series does for ancient Rome what the Gamache series does for Montreal and its surrounding areas. Really good at transporting you to a different time and place. I have also read the first book in the Cadfael series and thought that was a strong opening book in the series. I intend to get back to it someday. A recurring problem following all these different series People were looking for something set in Australia and Peter Temple's books fit the bill. I have only read the first book in his Jack Irish series but that was enough to convince me to get the rest of them. He's an acclaimed writer but not as well known as some think he should be. Sadly passed away in 2018.
  7. Pacala

    Glad that’s over.

    When China make reviews.
  8. The threats made by Sansa and Arya where about stopping people from killing Jon not about who was going to be King. Tyrion nominated Bran and the others said yes. They all could have disagreed and the meeting would have went on.
  9. This was a great and fun read, thank you. I really enjoyed this article as well. This early portion of the article was one of my favs: ..........Most shows absolutely overstay their welcome—just look at the last nearly two decades of The Simpsons. But Game of Thrones was different. It had to be long. It needed to be slow, and thoughtful, and most importantly take its time. So to think that Benioff and Weiss wanted to do this in the 13 episodes that comprised Seasons Seven and Eight is ludicrous. And as any fan of this series could have predicted at the time, it didn't work That's why Seasons Seven and Eight felt so ridiculously rushed. That's why people started teleporting, why once complex characters suddenly became flat, vanished altogether, or morphed into nothing but convenient Deus Ex Machina, or why producers literally left coffee cups and water bottles in shots. Those prop errors are the perfect metaphor for these last two seasons, where no one slowed down to think about the product they were putting out. No one stopped to consider these beloved character arcs or the sheer logic of the narrative. Instead Benioff and Weiss wanted bigger battles! They wanted spectacle not story.
  10. So he goes back, becames Maester, ArchMaester and Gran Maester after running away and stealing, all in the time it takes to make the first reunion of the small council. All that after voting for the new king as what then, not even a Lord?
  11. Ser Loras The Gay

    Loose ends

    Disney bought it? When? Wtf
  12. Even in the show, it doesn't work. Robert was a prime example of a King who was terrible for the realm because he had no interest in the role. I believe they even had Varys explicitly say this at one point. I think people can see what they want in the show, but let's not pretend the showrunners weren't more interested in shock value than themes. They even infamously said "themes are for 8th grade book reports".
  13. Erkan12

    Edmure Should Have Got It

    No matter how much you like Edmure or make threads for him it will not change the fact that he is an idiot, and he ALREADY ADMITTED HIS FAULT. Of course, again, according to your delusional view, he only admitted his fault because Blackfish pushed him or something, you made Blackfish a liar as well for defending Edmure.
  14. David Selig

    Edmure Should Have Got It

    Quote that direct order Edmure "defied". Also, the lives Edmure risked were Riverland lords and knights who were begging him for permission to defend their lands. And he smartly used the rvier to negate the Lannister numbers advantage,
  15. Well, what the show did simply has no relevance to the books. Monarchy is the only way Westeros has ever been run for thousands of years. Westeros moved from petty kings to more important ones like the Storm Kimg to Aegon overseeing seven kingdoms... but there were always kings. If civilization in Westeros survives, there will be a king of some sort. It's not going to become a democratic republic.
  16. StoneColdJorahMormont

    Bran Truly Was The Best Possible Choice To Rule

    no cheers to yourself for clearing few things up, sometimes you remember what you want to remember and not what actually took place lol
  17. ummester

    Loose ends

    Tat's coz Disney brought it, right? Disney is pretty tit free, unless it is in the 80s Rescuers cartoon.
  18. Ser Loras The Gay

    Loose ends

    He's alive, but never shown. Yes, it was only to create artificial tension between him and Dany. Because it served no end in the grand scheme.
  19. Ser Loras The Gay

    Loose ends

    Even the tits departament was a little off last and this season.
  20. Erkan12

    Edmure Should Have Got It

    If you think Blackfish would do that for that purpose, I say you're delusional. According to you Blackfish is kind of LF politician not a legendary knight.
  21. rotting sea cow

    [Poll] How would you rate episode 806?

    Of course. Surely there might be some nazi iron eagle on front of the Nuremberg rally. Dany is now Westeros Hitler. It is known.
  22. #FreeGhost

    Loose ends

    Was Howland Reed still alive? Was the whole R+L=J a plot device to make Jon's eventual 'obscurity' more bittersweet? What exactly was the device used to respawn Unsullied soldiers after every battle?
  23. Jova Snow

    Heresy 221 and the Children of Winterfell

    True, and I an glad I am not the only one who thought Ned Dayne could be Ned Starks, why would an eleven years old boy seek the new Hand of the King and observe his children? @LynnS I would say Taena is in her twenties since the text compare her to Arianne (through their titts)
  24. i had difficulty reconciling the principle that i discerned in the seinfeld finale with how i had understood the show, which means that my interpretation of the show diverged significantly from the writers' interpretation. that doesn't make it bad, or anyone wrong--just that it didn't hit the right notes for me. it was kinda the same with the x-files, which developed several competing principles as the years went on and the show evolved. maybe trials are kinda not the best ending, either--especially for a show that is about people who can't be held accountable--which is the identity underlying both seinfeld and the x-files, perhaps having some applicability to feudal aristocrats and absolute monarchs. breaking bad and californication had effective final episodes, but they were part of seasons that seemed to degenerate from the prior standard, rushing, perhaps, or recklessly tacked on, merely cumulation without logical relation to the history of the program, in my reading. the BSG remake finale was just kinda wut in some of its unforeseeable and therefore unearned particulars. the game of thrones finale suffered from all three of these potential defects. that said, it was still kinda kickass. i dig the stark kid's dispositions.
  25. David Selig

    Edmure Should Have Got It

    The part in bold is incorrect. Here is what a scout from the army told Cat when she came back to Riverrun from Renly" Good older thread on this topic -
  26. Erkan12

    Edmure Should Have Got It

    What do you understand of ''hold the Riverrun''? So you can go out there and fight? It seems you don't know, Lannisters had more men than they had, Edmure had no right to risk the lives of Robb's men. Edmure is King Robb's subject, and Robb is King of the Trident as well, not only North. Edmure defied a direct order and Robb's men died for his stupiditiy. Robb didn't need to tell him anything, hold Riverrun was more than enough. Especially risking another battle with Lannister army without getting any order from Robb was stupid. As Blackfish says, he is an idiot.
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