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  2. Kajjo

    Saying Goodbye

    Agreed. This one was full of emotions, the scenes were not rushed, important clues to the plotline divulged. Very good indeed. It's a 10/10 from me.
  3. nara

    SPOILERS: Rant and Rave

    My interpretation: the man knew enough to be afraid, the girl was naively thinking that she could fight. IIRC, it’s mentioned many times in the books that people write songs about glory in battle, but real battle is horrific and people shit themselves from the fear.
  4. Legitimate_Bastard

    Imaginary swords for swordless characters

    Grisel - Demidigit
  5. Squall

    SPOILERS: Rant and Rave

    I believe these two episodes are all about fan service and ticking checkboxes. The majority of viewers want these reunions. I've listened to a few podcasts and there are people weeping loads of tears, so I guess it seems to work out quite alright. The Jorah and Lyanna moment was something many wanted, the knighting of Brienne was also in the realm of expectation. I like reunions but I found them mostly hamfisted and more like "speed dating on reality tv" with forced talking points. It's like D&D were saying "come on guys we gotta wrap this up who's the next duo?" Nobody's asking why they have to talk, it's just they were scheduled to do so.
  6. RhaenysBee

    [Spoilers] E802 Discussion

    I just want everybody to die and Drogon and Rhaegal rule Westeros Jurassic Park style. I mean I can’t think of a scenario that could salvage the main characters with these personalities they have portrayed lately. Okay, maybe we can keep Sam and Gilly and Little Sam and Ghost too and a handful a peasants and they can restart humanity. And some poor sods from the Dothraki and the Unsullied armies who so didn’t sign up for this shit. And if I really stretch it, we can keep Edd and Alys Karstark or something. I don’t see the point of anybody else’s survival.
  7. Lady Fevre Dream

    SPOILERS: Rant and Rave

    Ah yes, thank you. I remember Thoros talking about seeing the bodies laid at the Iron Throne. That's a scene I would recheck and should be easy to find. I do think Thoros may have used the names as well. I think I'll take a peek at Sandor's Trial by Combat w The Brotherhood a little later. The Arya/Gendry scene was really rushed, but I don't think he was disgusted by her scars. He noticed them, yes, but I didn't think he looked disgusted, I do think he was noticing other things about her. What we did see of her scars was nothing compared to the mess they made of Kit's Jon. Then again, they are petty guys, but I'll leave it at that. Dialogue is not the Ds strong suit. It's probably for the best that they were short on dialogue for the scene.
  8. HellasLEAF

    "F*** Tradition" - Breaking Patriarchy

    That's 'SER' Brienne of Tarth...
  9. btfu806

    Episode 3 preview

    I have to say, I am pretty pumped about this episode. I haven't been a fan of this season or last but I have waited so long for this since reading the books way back when. I really hope it is done well (though I think D&D, for as much as I can't stand their story telling, do battles well enough). I really think Winterfell is doomed this episode and the WW "win" this first round and the battle continues to middle of the fourth episode.
  10. Yes, a Dothraki character as a minor counselor, in Dany's second circle of influence, would have been a good thing IMO.
  11. HellasLEAF

    [Poll] How would you rate episode 802?

    I'm honestly confused by the fans that loved it, calling it one of the best episodes in years, and those with very low scores basically calling it boring, filler, where nothing happened. I'm honestly shocked how a GOT fan could have that sentiment and score so low but to each their own.
  12. King Jon Snow Stark

    Who is Going to Die

  13. Red Dragon10

    Saying Goodbye

    I also liked that there wasn't CGI flash. I've always appreciated character development in this story, over spectacle. The problem for me was that what could have been some very poignant scenes fell a bit flat for me. There were a few sweet moments (cut far too short). And while having sex might be a normal reaction to "I might die tomorrow", I thought Arya was the wrong person to fill that role. It just doesn't make sense to me that THAT is what she most wants to experience on her maybe-last-night. A lot of stuff felt a bit thrown together to me and just not good enough, since this is going to be the last time we really hear from some of these characters. There are too many characters left and not enough time to do them justice, and when they do have 'their moment', the script writing is too poor to be memorable or they focus on the wrong subject/don't spend those characters time wisely.
  14. Lord Varys

    "F*** Tradition" - Breaking Patriarchy

    As a sign to patriarchy it would have had actually much more meaning if Dany as a woman herself would have done that - as a queen regnant she could have done that, too, or simply taken the power to do it. It could also have been done by the instigation of Sansa or in a more public venue - doing it along with drinking men makes it more than a travesty than a great event - sort of like a Las Vegas wedding you try to forget the next day. Still, on a personal level it is a nice scene, although all the nice buildup and bonding between Brienne and Jaime is long since gone.
  15. tallTale

    "F*** Tradition" - Breaking Patriarchy

    How much "patriarchy breaking" do we still need in the show? 90% of the leaders are women. Mostly the scene of Brienne being knighted was the culmination of what it means to be a knight: the psychical, moral, and spiritual aspects of it.
  16. Rockroi

    SPOILERS: Rant and Rave

    First of all, you do an excellent job of describing both how the show has failed and why the show has failed. I think you describe the discomfort of the show as it relates to these scenes very well. Secondly, however, I think some thought has to be given to Arya as a person under these circumstances. She does have true feelings for Gendry; she is comfortable at home again; she is also maybe about to die. All these things together do make her decision to engage in the comfort of sex at the very least plausible if not understandable. And while I completely agree that the show has no idea what motivates the characters, but with Arya, we have a character that is always trying to be more human. Case-in-point is the last scene she had with Hot Pie when he bakes her the direwolf-loaf and as she is eating it she turns and tells him that its "really good." As insignificant as this seems, it does show that Arya wants to be kind, and that she wants to be kind to Hot Pie. She is making a human connection even if her appearance and her affect seem to be "Fuck everyone else." No. No, Arya wants to be good to people who are good to her. In Gendry, Arya sees somebody who has not only always been good to her, always looked out for her; she sees another abused soul. Gendry has been chased, captured, sold, tortured, "mutilated" and even sexually assaulted. She sees another damaged person who has been through the wringer just like her. And she wants to have a moment with that person. Look, this is a rant-and-rave thread and if you have a problem with that scene, I completely get it. But in this instance, while I think the scene was tacked on and ham-fisted, I thought it was an earned moment of genuine tenderness, even if it came from Arya who is a borderline sociopath.
  17. Kajjo

    [Poll] How would you rate episode 802?

    Yes, that was moving, but I also like Brienne vouching for Jamie very much, too. That was even more moving to me. Also Sansa's reaction to Brienne vouching. There were many nice scenes in E2. Samwell/Jorah was great and moving, too.
  18. kissdbyfire

    SPOILERS: Rant and Rave

    Good points. In all honesty, it never even crossed my mind that maybe it wasn’t greyscale. I went there immediately, “oh greyscale cute girl, tug at the ol heartstrings bs”.
  19. btfu806

    Who is Going to Die

    Beric, Jorah, Edd, Gendry die this episode. A lot of people will be fake outs.
  20. Varysblackfyre321

    International thread 2

    This deserves it’s own thread.
  21. Charlie Hustle

    Remorseful Jaime, Unrepentant Dany

    Totally agree. Dany is the hot head and Jon is the calm, tempered one. As Dany stated to Sansa she could have went straight to the IT (easy win with 3 dragons) when she got to Westeros, but her love for Jon swayed her to go north to fight his war, which is far more dangerous. Which could mean impending death for her and him. He is her good conscience.
  22. Lord Varys

    [Spoilers] E802 Discussion

    Well, you could also have addressed the point. I was not just ranting, I was also addressing a significant point in the nonsensical characterization of a particular character within the TV continuity. Dany is characterized as a girl who is forced into her role as 'last scion of a royal line supposed to avenge her family and take back what's theirs' against her own will. Originally she has no internal motivation or desire for the Iron Throne nor is that her main priority in light of the story she has for most of the show. And then there is the fact that she never even sits on the bloody chair. If she had become a crowned and anointed queen last season, say, then her giving up that would have another quality because she would have made a solemn promise to gods and men, etc. to be a queen and she would have been acknowledged as such by a majority of the people, finally gaining all the trappings of power, etc. But in the show is just a pretender with two dragons and a big army. She isn't a proper queen in any real sense of the world. Just a war lord. And if you are in such a position it is much more easier to give up what you never actually had. Which leads again the fake tension. Only in a silly world of egocentric actors would things like 'Does she love you enough to give up her throne for you' actually pose a conundrum - because real people would actually resolve such 'a conflict' by marriage and joint rule. In fact, even if those morons didn't love each other a political and loveless marriage would also be the obvious reason to resolve such conflicting claims. Because there is no way that a sane person would want to fight this out while or shortly after they were fighting against a zombie army.
  23. Kajjo

    Why so serious?

    The are outnumbered at least 1:10 and most probably not every soldier of the Living have a dragonglass blade. As Jon Snow put it in E2: There are too many of them. Our enemy does not tire, does not stop, doesn't feel.
  24. Agree 100%. There isn’t a shred of romance foreshadowing, sexual tension, nothing.
  25. A Dance with Davos

    "F*** Tradition" - Breaking Patriarchy

    I felt like Brienne being knighted wasn't the greatest of moments. With the forces of death on their way to annihilate anyone that draws breath the point has been made that titles and bloodlines just aren't the most important of thing to be focusing on. It is all about the living vs the dead. I feel like a better conclusion to Briennes arc would have been to acknowledge the fact that she is more of a knight than any actual knight. I mean isn't that the entire point of her character? It isn't about literally being knighted, but the values that you uphold. With the episode starting with Brienned defending Jaime. I feel like it ending with Jaime telling Brienne she is the the true embodiment of a knight would've been far more emotional and fulfilling.
  26. Right now Dany, Sansa and Jon are all annoying me big time. None of them seems to have a leader hat on and they are all focused on the wrong thing!! Now Dany is mad that Jon is a male heir, Jon is avoiding Dany and brooding when he should be talking to her about what it means to be a Targaryen and idk--asking about Rhaegar maybe? and Sansa just can't make up her mind what to be mad about next.
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