Azureguy added a topic in A Dance with DragonsAurane Waters: Helping Stannis?So we hear in ADWD that there is a pirate in the stepstones styling himself "The Lord of the Waters", which seems to point to Aurane. But I feel like there's a chance that he's going to help Stannis. It's not impossible, considering..
1.) Aurane was originally fighting for Stannis before being captured after Blackwater and pledging to Joffrey and Cersei.
2.) Why would he flee after Cersei was incapacitated, unless to have the opportunity to rejoin Stannis? I suppose he could be fleeing in case accusations were thrown at him, since he was closish to the queen, but this seems less likely to me.
3.) It could be that Aurane was always still loyal to Stannis, and only bent the knee to save his life. He then build the ships under Cersei's eye and escaped to deliver the ships to Stannis, perhaps at Eastwatch?
This is all theory, but it seems to make a lot of sense to me (and I would really like for Aurane to rejoin Stannis) The "Lord of the Waters" deal could've just been a ploy to stop people from coming after him.
Am I crazy, or does this make sense?
P.S: Sorry if this topic has been discussed, but my search for "Aurane Waters" showed no results, so here I am.
- 8 replies
- 1,354 views
Azureguy added a topic in General (ASoIaF)Westeros in Real HistoryThis is my follow up to an older post about the different regions of Westeros representing different modern countries. (That thread can be found here http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/59125-what-country-does-each-kingdom-represent-historically/ )
However, I had a different take on the subject.
Westeros: I'd say Westeros as a whole represents England, while the Targaryen's represent the Normans. Just like pre-conquest Westeros, the different regions of England were once individual scandinavian kingdoms (much like the first men. You could even make the case that the Angles represent the first men, and the Andals represent the Saxons, both coming from the east to inhabit this land.) Subsequently, Aegon the Conqueror would represent William The Conqueror, who conquered England in 1066 at the Battle of Hastings and arose to the throne of England to unite the country.
Dorne: While this is a less fleshed out idea, Dorne, since it is distinctly unique to England, could represent The Iberian Peninsula (Modern day Spain). The Rhoynar then representing the Moors. (Some converting to Christianity, some keeping their own religion, etc)
The Wildlings: Scotland. George R.R Martin has even said that inspiration for the Wall came from Hadrian's Wall, a wall built by Emperor Hadrian (Creative, right?) in Roman-controlled Brittania (The roman term for Britain.) to protect what is now England from the "barbaric" Scots. Like Scotland, The Wildlings have less access to metal weapons and armor. Even their geography fits in this analogy, with Scotland/The Wildlings being directly north of Westeros/England.
The Free Cities: The Italian City States. After the fall of the Roman Empire, many of the great cities in Italy became their own city states, with their own specialization. (for example, Milan was famed for it's expertise in arms and armor.) This is practically identical to the Free Cities, who were once part of the Valyrian Empire and later rose as their own cities. The Free Cities even also have their own specializations. (Myrish Lenses, Lys' Whorehouses, Tyroshi dyes, etc.)
The Dothraki Sea: The Khanate of the Golden Horde. The Khanate of the Golden Horde was the successor to Genghis Khan's Mongol empire, and the predecessor to the Crimean Khanate.. (If you're wondering where the word "Khan" comes from: Khan, Khanate, King, Kingdom. WORDS!) The most obviously similarity is in the ruler's name. "Khan" in history is very similar to "Khal" in Westeros. But the similarities don't end there. Just like how Khalasar's chose a leader through contests of strength, so to did the Khanate originally have an elected monarchy. The Golden Horde were also historically nomads, who fought on horseback when possible.
Well, what do you think? I may update this thread periodically if anything else pops into my head.
- 23 replies
- 1,930 views
Azureguy added a topic in A Storm of SwordsJon didn't break his vow?I know this is a stretch, but I was thinking the other day that maybe Jon's relationship with Ygritte didn't TECHNICALLY break his vow. Take a look:
I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the shield that guards the realms of men. I pledge my life and honor to the Night's Watch, for this night and all the nights to come."
"Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crowns and win no glory....
The oath vows to take no wife and father no children. Technically, Jon didn't take Ygritte as his wife and he didn't father a child with her either.
Just call me the best lawyer in Westeros
While this post is a bit of a stretch, It does make sense. Thoughts?
- 20 replies
- 2,496 views
Azureguy added a topic in A Storm of SwordsSympathy For Joffrey(WARNING, NEAR END OF BOOK SPOILER, DO NOT GO ON IF YOU HAVE NOT READ JOFFREY'S WEDDING)
It sounds like the most ludicrious thing in the world, but after finding myself reading the -near- end of A Storm Of Swords and into A Feast For Crows, I can't help but think that yes, Joffrey was an absolute idiot, but he was still a stupid little kid who had two non fathers and a crazy mother. And of course the image of 12 year old boy clawing at his own throat probably helps the whole sympathy thing.
- 130 replies
- 14,144 views