I know, I know...there have already been a million threads about them, but please bear with me. As you read on it will be more engrossing, I promise you. OLD ICE: Lost during the Age of Heroes ( Most probably after the Battle for the Dawn which ended the Long Night). It could've been the Valyrian steel (dragonsteel) sword used by the last hero to slay the Other(s). NEW ICE" Just a Valyrian steel sword named after the old one which is now reforged into Oathkeeper and Widow's