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#141 morgoth

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Posted 10 March 2006 - 03:38 PM

So Brienne won't die then?

As a known fact? I cannot say that she'll die. Will she die at some other part in the story? I think it's highly possible or maybe she'll live to see the end result and be a sworn sword of whoever sits the throne. But for the purpose at hand I do not believe that Brienne will die here. I don't believe it one bit.

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Posted 10 March 2006 - 03:56 PM

So Brienne won't die then?


I don't think she's dying at the order of Stoneheart either because Brienne is one of two to three characters so far, (Sam Tarly and oddly enough Jaime Lannister) who have been out and about, seen a lot of different stuff and can be the ones to start pulling the story together.
Sooner or later it's got to happen and who's going to do it...Tyrion...
he's on his way to Braavos, Jon's on the Wall, Bran's heading north, etc etc....
Even if they haven't quite the smarts to put things together, they can
tell people who do.
Mind that doesn't mean their getting out of the series alive.

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Posted 10 March 2006 - 05:10 PM

SPOILER: MAJOR ADWD/TWOW

Brienne will not die where she is left in AFFC or she will come back through R'hllor. GRRM let slip at a signing I attended that Brienne will meet Tyrion.


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Posted 10 March 2006 - 11:26 PM

Thanks Jon T. That is a very interesting turn.

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Posted 10 March 2006 - 11:51 PM

JT, you aren't putting one over us are you? :P

thanks for the info though...wow...a slip-up by GRRM, how uncharacteristic.

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Posted 10 March 2006 - 11:52 PM

Many thanks Jon Targ. That made it worth reading through 7 pages of speculations. :)

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Posted 12 March 2006 - 06:11 PM

or the word could be more like : "GYaaaaaaaaaaaa" then she died and then when the band has gone thoros revives her and she continues the journey as a virgin who died and seriously never gets laid. Who'd do a freakish huge, ugly, dead woman?


I'm pretty sure Gregor would.

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Posted 12 March 2006 - 09:42 PM

her word was bacon.

she had a last second craving.

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Posted 13 March 2006 - 08:11 AM

SPOILER: MAJOR ADWD/TWOW

Brienne will not die where she is left in AFFC or she will come back through R'hllor. GRRM let slip at a signing I attended that Brienne will meet Tyrion.

I would have loved to see what your post said.

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Posted 13 March 2006 - 10:46 AM

I would have loved to see what your post said.


Hmm, not sure what you mean by this.

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Posted 13 March 2006 - 11:04 AM

Hmm, not sure what you mean by this.

What I mean is that your post is blacked out on my computer screen because it's labeled as a spoiler.

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Posted 13 March 2006 - 11:08 AM

And you know how to look at it right? You're just choosing not to? Is that what you're saying?

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Posted 13 March 2006 - 02:55 PM

CERESI!

Who does UnCat hate more than anyone? The Freys and the Lannisters: Twyin (b/c of Robb and Red Wedding), Ceresi (b/c of Ned, Arya, Sansa), Jamie (b/c of Bran), and Tyrion (b/c of Bran, unjustly, and Sansa). UnCat and the outlaws are focusing on the Freys, I believe, because their betrayal was so violent, immediate, and fresh in what passes for UnCat's memory. The Freys did the actual killing, and they are in close proximity, so she is attacking and killing Freys (and whatever Lions pass her way). But I believe she would most love to have her revenge on the Lannisters, who's machinations began the downfall of her family (starting with Ceresi's targeting of Ned).

Funnily enough, UnCat does not know that one of her own men might have the means to bring about Ceresi's downfall (through her children): Gendry. True, a bastard born would have an iffy claim to the throne, but if it can be proved that Tommen/Myrcella are not actually Robert's children and that he died with no trueborn sons, the bastards might have a pretty good claim. Gendry is likely one of the oldest bastard born sons (Mya is older, I believe, but as a girl does not have a good claim).

Just before being attacked at the crossroads, Brienne realized that Gendry was likely Robert's bastard. B knows how much UnCat hates the Lannisters. She could try, with her last word, to save herself by giving UnCat the means to bring down the Lannister hold on King's Landing.

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Posted 13 March 2006 - 02:59 PM

And you know how to look at it right? You're just choosing not to? Is that what you're saying?

I admit that I am an idiot when it comes to computers. If I could see it then I would've read it.

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Posted 13 March 2006 - 03:40 PM

Just highlight it like you want to copy it or cut or paste it. It should show up.

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Posted 13 March 2006 - 03:51 PM

Just highlight it like you want to copy it or cut or paste it. It should show up.

AHA! I knew that the person in question would live. Thanks for the tip. I learn something new every time that I come here.

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Posted 13 March 2006 - 10:30 PM

CERESI!

Who does UnCat hate more than anyone? The Freys and the Lannisters: Twyin (b/c of Robb and Red Wedding), Ceresi (b/c of Ned, Arya, Sansa), Jamie (b/c of Bran), and Tyrion (b/c of Bran, unjustly, and Sansa). UnCat and the outlaws are focusing on the Freys, I believe, because their betrayal was so violent, immediate, and fresh in what passes for UnCat's memory. The Freys did the actual killing, and they are in close proximity, so she is attacking and killing Freys (and whatever Lions pass her way). But I believe she would most love to have her revenge on the Lannisters, who's machinations began the downfall of her family (starting with Ceresi's targeting of Ned).

Funnily enough, UnCat does not know that one of her own men might have the means to bring about Ceresi's downfall (through her children): Gendry. True, a bastard born would have an iffy claim to the throne, but if it can be proved that Tommen/Myrcella are not actually Robert's children and that he died with no trueborn sons, the bastards might have a pretty good claim. Gendry is likely one of the oldest bastard born sons (Mya is older, I believe, but as a girl does not have a good claim).

Just before being attacked at the crossroads, Brienne realized that Gendry was likely Robert's bastard. B knows how much UnCat hates the Lannisters. She could try, with her last word, to save herself by giving UnCat the means to bring down the Lannister hold on King's Landing.


Ohh I kind of like this idea. Not sure how one could put it across in one word but....it's a cool idea.

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Posted 14 March 2006 - 02:27 PM

Ohh I kind of like this idea. Not sure how one could put it across in one word but....it's a cool idea.


I had trouble with that too. Ceresi maybe (tho GRRM said she shouted out one word, not name) or GENDRY (although i doubt that would stop uncat, she's so undeaded she prob. doesn't know all of her crew's name).

Oh, had to add a bit, now that I've thought more on the subject. Wouldn't it be funny if UnCat sent Brienne on a quest to deliver Gendry to KL to unseat Tommen/Ceresi. I know it would never happen, but it would be a lark to see Brienne on her THIRD quest (the first being to deliver Jamie to KL and retreive Sansa/Arya on behalf of Cat and the second being to chase down Sansa and return her . . . somewhere on behalf of Jamie, neither of which have been fulfilled).

Brienne never liked the name Brienne the Beauty or Wench, might she like Brienne the Incomplete or Brienne the Inefficient any better?

Edited by Westrosi, 14 March 2006 - 05:42 PM.


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Posted 16 March 2006 - 12:09 PM

after just having a little read again through this thread, is it not possible old Brienne may get cut down and it will have nothing to do with anything she said. (I think this partly because so many posters are under the delusion that just because Jaime burned Cersei's letter, he's abandoning her...me I think he just burned a letter. This whole "last word" thing could be a similar sort of herring)
There's alot to be said for scaring the bejeez out of somebody then saying, "OK have I got your attention now."
It also occurs to me that this is one way for someone in the BWB to get there hands on what's left of Ned's sword.
And maybe pass it on to Jon or Arya or Sansa at some point?
Just a thought.

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Posted 16 March 2006 - 12:18 PM

Now that we know what will happen to Brienne, we probably don't care what Brienne's one word is, but how about "Cut-us-loose-and-I-will-beg-Jaime-to-give-you-a-job-that-will-blow-your-mind."