[quote name='Padraig' post='1597793' date='Nov 22 2008, 19.27']Naive, innocent...it doesn't matter, I loved Ned. :)[/quote] and who didnt? i think thats my biggest concern of the series if will you fall in love with all of the starks like in the books? without solid starks, and that goes for each one of them, i think its hard to really get into the characters early. and i dont mean to take away from the importance of the complexity of the other characters, just find the starks most important for that hook.