Grover Bluejoy

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  1. Question for show watchers and book readers.

    Ha! That was hilarious. I had heard about it, just hadn't seen it.
  2. Recurring phrasings in the books

    Wasn't "Nuncle" only used in the Iron Islands chapters?
  3. Question for show watchers and book readers.

    That's what I love about this piece of work. I'm only 200 or so pages into AGOT, and so far I've encountered three different lines that would seemingly mean nothing on the first read, but once you go back through after knowing what happens, those sentences take on a different meaning. I don't have the book in front of me now, but in Ned's second or third chapter, Robert makes a comment to him about sparsely populated the North is, and Ned tells him that "Kings are rarely seen in the north". Then Robert responds with "More likely they were hiding under the snow. Snow, Ned!" During one of Arya's chapter's, she's run off to her room (this is in King's Landing) and Ned comes up to talk to her. Arya was venting about Sansa and Joffrey lying about the incident with Mycah and Nymeria. Ned tells Arya that he knew she lied about her direwolf running away, and then tells her that "We all lie" and how there was something noble in her lie, because she was doing it to protect Nymeria. There we see Ned justifying his lie about Jon, and if Arthur Dayne dies the same in the book as in the show, he's also validating that cover up as well. Yeah, for sure. Me too. I only read the books after watching the first three seasons. But ultimately, I have to let it go because it's not my creation. Who knows if Martin has made peace with that or not; he more than likely regrets optioning it off before he finished it though, which I can't blame him if he does feel that way. Although, if he never had, we wouldn't have the cast we do now. Obviously we wouldn't know what we were missing had he waited. It's quite refreshing how civil people are on this forum; that's quite rare in the internet world. My wife had already read through the first three books when we started watching the series, so she knew about Ned's fate. I however did not, and that was when I realized it's cold blooded up in Westeros!
  4. Who would win in a fight between the Mountain and the Hound?

    I would say The Hound. Sure, The Mountain has brute strength and he's quick, but he's also a hot head and would be prone to getting frustrated if the fight is going harder than he thought, like with Oberyn. The Hound has to just keep a level head and not get overly confident or emotional like The Red Viper did. Plus, he'd be fighting his younger brother, who has years of pent up aggression towards him, and the Mountain would probably think it's an easy win, so Gregor has an advantage there.
  5. Question for show watchers and book readers.

    I'm assuming Dormer wanted to go on to do more movies? I know that's why the original Daario left. True. I think there are too many book purists that get a little too upset over every deviation, but with a different medium, changes are necessary sometimes. Although I'm not entirely unsympathetic, as I had problems with some of the changes Snyder did with Watchmen. Anyways, AFFC is probably my least favorite, and some of the Sand Snake chapters just really dragged. I just started my re-read of the series, so I might feel different the second time around. I'm not sure I hated them as much on the show as others did, but their acting and dialogue were a little too cartooney/hollywoody/over the top for me as their storyline progressed.
  6. I think part of it could be that Valyrians may have their characteristic hair and eye color because of selective breeding, and that is one of the genetic defects from their eugenic practices. Similar to how some dog breeds are more prone to certain issues with their limbs or eye sight.
  7. Question for show watchers and book readers.

    lol, Lena does smirk A LOT. I never really thought about it until you mentioned it.
  8. Question for show watchers and book readers.

    Some of these I could go either way with, like Tyrion for example, but he had a few moments in the books where I thought "He's kind of a dick!" that I didn't have when watching the show. I do agree with some of these other choices like Pod and Margery. I think Lena is great as Cersei, but I feel with her scheming in "A Feast for Crows" made book Cersei way more inept that show Cersei. One of the biggest issues I have with the show is the lack of development of the religions until this most recent season, but that's an entirely separate discussion.
  9. I read an interview with Martin a few years back saying that he preferred Bronn and Osha in the show versus them in his is own books. Which characters do you prefer the show version of? For me, I'd have to say Oberyn. Maybe it's because I haven't read the books in a while (currently started my re-read and am only about 200 pages into book one) but I don't remember him being quite as lively in the text as Pascal was on the show. I have mixed feelings on this about The Hound though. I enjoy him just as much in the books as in the show, but here are some classic Hound scenes and lines in the shows that aren't in the books. One of them being where he and Arya are outside the inn where they run into Poliver and his crew, and then the ensuing dialogue when Poliver comes over to talk to them.
  10. [THEORY] Jon Snow is actually Bran's son?!!?!?

    Ha! Sounds like the plot of Rant by Chuck Palahniuk.
  11. Ibbenese=Neanderthals?

    Well, Neanderthals are human, just a different species of human; I'm a bit of a pedant, I know. I think that's the same case with the people of Ib. Well, I don't know if I'd say they could mate very successfully though. According to the World Book, when an Ibbenese woman mates with non-Ibbenese, the results are stillborns and monstrosities. When an Ibbense male knocks up the non-Ibbense, the children are often deformed and sterile. Of course, this calls into question of whether the Skagosi actually are kin to the Ibbenese or not when you consider this, which is pure speculation to being with. I think you're onto something with Brindled Men in Sothoryos though. At first, I thought it might be more of the standard "Medieval" explanation for tattoos, but people in The Known World know what those are. Their description is pretty close to the Ibbenese, except the snout-like nose and of course, the brindled skin. Your user name is hilarious by the way.
  12. Ibbenese=Neanderthals?

    True. Ibbenese, Skagosi, and the brindled men of Sothoryos were the only ones I saw that fit more of a Neanderthal or Neanderthal type species that exist. Of course you have the tales of the people in The Thousand Islands, the winged and bloodless men in the Far East, etc., so there may be other species of humans running around the world.
  13. Ibbenese=Neanderthals?

    Very cool. I'm assuming there is some type of confirmation from Martin himself in an interview? I did a cursory search in Google and didn't see anything, aside from this post right here and another one concerning the same subject.
  14. Ibbenese=Neanderthals?

    Based on their description, would it make sense that the Ibbenese are Neanderthals? Extinct creatures exist in this world, so why not an extinct branch of humans? Also based on their descriptions, it appears there is a branch or related species in Sothoryos as well, and that the Skagosi might have an admixture of Ibbenese blood. It's interesting how the Ibbenese had a similar battle with a similar species to The CoTF when they were settling and carving out new places to live in Essos. Part of what I really like about this series is the mystery behind the history of The Known World, and how we'll never get closure or explanations for some of these events.
  15. Most intriguing place to you outside of Westeros

    Ha! Fair enough, but she has to keep that charm on the whole time though.