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From Behind the Name:

NERYS

GENDER: Feminine

USAGE: Welsh

 

 

Meaning and history:

 

Perhaps an elaboration of Welsh ner "lord", with the intended meaning of "lady".

dân = fire

Therefore, Dan + nerys = Daenerys, The Lady of Fire

This explains Queen Naerys' name as well.

Fits too well to be a coincidence, especially when we know that GRRM often uses Welsh as source of inspiration (Tyrion, Gwen from Dying of the Light etc.)

9 hours ago, Isobel Harper said:

There's a Stormlander family with the Baratheon sigil inversed (and quartered?) with a bar sinister slashed across it. I forget the house name though.  Maybe it's related somehow related? 

That's House Bolling - their sigil is 'Vairy orange and blue, upon a black canton, a golden stag beneath an orange bend sinister' (Vairy tenné and azure, on a canton sable a stag or debruised by a bend sinister of the first).

But they might be a branch of House Durrandon, not of Baratheons...

There's another house with Durrandon/Baratheon stags - House Wensington (Two golden trumpets crossed on a blue field, beneath a gold chief with three black stags).

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Maybe merchant later became Sealord and princess from Summer Islands was on sone diplomatic mission in Braavos?

Edit: Hmmm....I didn't notice that it says 'merchant's daughter' not merchant's son.

6 minutes ago, ZeRamenGuy said:

I'm curious about why houses that are mentioned only in The Princess and the Queen, such as House Grey, House Chambers and House Bigglestone are listed as extinct in the "Houses of the Riverlands" template, but not on the Category:Extinct houses page. It should also be noted that houses mentioned only in the Dunk and Egg novels, such as House Shawney and House Butterwell are treated differently in the sense that they are not listed in the "Houses of the Riverlands" template as being extinct the way houses mentioned only in The Princess and the Queen are.

Welcome to the forum Ramen

I'm happy that you finally created account here.

Just a heads up, your link links back to this page rather than to that wiki.

http://westeroscraft.wikia.com/wiki/WesterosCraft_Wiki

Small wiki for builds and locations from WesterosCraft. Only ~300 pages. I have 2nd place in 'Editors with biggest number of edits'

Sounds like a good idea. "The Soiled Knight" confirms that Quentyn received knighthood from Lord Yronwood instead of from Oberyn.

Separately, should a House Bolton of Winterfell article be created, since Ramsay is Lord of Winterfell in ADWD?

I'll dig up my Wiki password and change it

I'm not active on 'Ice and Fire' wiki because WesterosCraft Wiki http://westeroscraft.wikia.com/wiki/WesterosCraft_Wiki & other things take much of my time.

Should 'Ser' be added to titles in infoboxes of prince Quentyn and Oberyn Martell?

Abel is pretty obviously a reference to Bael in-universe, but I think it's also an allusion to the Biblical Abel.  Abel is most famous for being the first brother.  He quarrels with his brother and is killed by him.  Mance too quarrels with his brothers and is "killed" by them (actually Rattleshirt, but hey).  And in the story of his death, burnt offerings to God are key.  There's a question about whether "God's favour" (which Abel has, his brother does not) might come into play with the NW later on, or perhaps R'hllor glamouring him might fit in.  At any rate, it's not at all one for one, but there seems to be enough mixed up similarities for it to be something of an allusion.

But maybe just seeing patterns where there aren't any.  Sad to say, this was the only potential allusion I remembered from my re-read that has yet to be mentioned in the thread.  

Maybe Abel is a reference to Peter ABELard as well.... both couldn't be with a woman they loved because they belonged to celibate orders - Mance in Night's Watch, Abelard as a teology professor . Both chose to break rules - Mance deserted watch and Abelard had Heloisa as lover.

Chett is from Hag's Mire which is seat of House Nayland.

From SoS prologue:

he only women Chett had ever known were the whores he'd bought in Mole's Town. When he'd been younger, the village girls took one look at his face, with its boils and its wen, and turned away sickened. The worst was that slattern Bessa. She'd spread her legs for every boy in Hag's Mire so he'd figured why not him too? He even spent a morning picking wildflowers when he heard she liked them, but she'd just laughed in his face and told him she'd crawl in a bed with his father's leeches before she'd crawl in one with him. She stopped laughing when he put his knife in her. That was sweet, the look on her face, so he pulled the knife out and put it in her again. When they caught him down near Sevenstreams, old Lord Walder Frey hadn't even bothered to come himself to do the judging. He'd sent one of his bastards, that Walder Rivers, and the next thing Chett had known he was walking to the Wall with that foul-smelling black devil Yoren. To pay for his one sweet moment, they took his whole life.

'When they caught him down near Sevenstreams, old Lord Walder Frey hadn't even bothered to come himself to do the judging. He'd sent one of his bastards, that Walder Rivers" - Nayland is knighly house so they can't sentence to death. Chett was sentenced by Freys so they must be Nayland overlords.

Cleon, last King of Astapor may also be reference to Emperor Cleon II (last Galactic Emperor) from Asimov's 'Foundations' series.

On 12/13/2015 at 3:47 PM, Nittanian said:

I don't see mention in either of the RPG books.

I think that it's a quote from 'Free Cities' video ('Game of Thrones - History and Lore' - videos added to CDs with GoT).

So, unless there is any evidence in the books, it should be changed/deleted.

Welcome back, Westerosi. I didn't have much time last months, so I was only 'lurker' here.

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