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  1. Tywin is manipulating Tyrion into going along with his plan that will benefit Tywin. He's not doing anything for Tyrion's sake. Never has, never will... He knows Tyrion won't scoff at a beautiful bride, and no matter how much Tyrion insists that she is a child, as soon as they are married it becomes very apparent that he is sexually attracted to her. Tywin saying 'you should thank me for doing one (1) nice thing for you in your entire life' is just him being a manipulative dad...
  2. Good points, and yet Tyrion has a point here… at least in the near future, no one is likely to annul their marriage. But Westeros is not yet at peace, Tyrion already nearly died several times in the recent past (in the Vale, during the Battle of the Blackwater), thus Tywin pressing for Tyrion to produce a Lannister heir to the North, and soon. I don't think annulment is a very realistic concern in this scenario, Tywin is just trying to pull every possible argument he has...
  3. Do we know this for certain? I think it was only a thing in the show, where they used the non-consummation as an excuse that Sansa could just marry again even though there was no proof Tyrion was actually dead and the marriage was never annulled. In the books, she cannot marry as long as Tyrion is potentially alive.
  4. Sure it's risky, but so is an unconsummated marriage. If Sansa has no children from Tyrion and something happens to him, someone else could snatch her and Winterfell along with it. (Which is kind of exactly what Littlefinger plans to make happen.) Also, I don't really get the feeling that a lot of people in Westeros are aware of the risks of impregnating a young teenage girl. Especially Tywin is very ruthless and not exactly known for caring about the wellbeing of others. If Sansa dies in childbirth he probably wouldn't care as long as she birthes a living son before.
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    Was it Cersei or Aerys?

    I'm not convinced that Cersei would have the status at court to put any ideas into Aerys' head. At least nothing that goes beyond raving about her brother's qualities or casually dropping that he would be a great fit for the KG, but even then… who is Cersei at this point that Aerys would listen to her?
  6. I don't think Arthur Dayne is that interesting except as a foil for Jaime, which is his major function in the story. He was a glorified knight who was loyal even when it meant dying for a king/regime that was already dead. Is that an interesting character? At least he makes us ask ourselves if it's really that good to be honourable beyond reason.
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    Why does Ned and Catelyn’s marriage work?

    They get along because this way, the readers are cheering for them and Ned's death has a great emotional impact on the reader. The Starks are the heroes of the story. Everything is fine when we first meet them (with the exception of the whole Jon thing) and then it all falls apart piece by piece, creating a dramatic effect.
  8. I disagree. Aerys was unhappy in his marriage. Even being insane he might be able to tell that sibling marriage isn't necessarily a great idea, if not for genetic reasons, then at least because of his personal experience. But I guess it's easy to say "he was insane so absolutely nothing going on in his head could have made sense". He was able to come to logical conclusions even if based on (possibly) wrong assumptions, such as "Rhaegar wants to conspire against me at the tourney of Harrenhal so I will go there to prevent this", "Tywin will turn against me so I will keep his son as a hostage", "Dorne will turn against me so I keep Elia a hostage" and so on. Not necessarily stupid conclusions to draw. Might have been whispered to him by other people though, but he was able to tell that 'if I do A then B won't happen'. A completely different question is was he compassionate enough to even care about whether Viserys, his favourite son, would be happy in his marriage. An argument for a Dany/Viserys match would be that Aerys trusted no one and at least he could be sure that his own daughter was unlikely to turn against him. Then again, he also suspected that Rhaegar, his own son, was turning against him, so who knows.
  9. But he would care about a pure Targaryen match? That would make him (in that respect) as sane or insane as all his ancestors who did the same thing.
  10. I wonder what Aerys' stance on sibling marriage was, though. Wasn't his marriage to Rhaella known to be an unhappy one? And on top of that, they had problems conceiving healthly children, which is not surprising giving the many generations of incest. Maybe he wouldn't want to repeat the same mistake with his own children?
  11. Marriages of young children such as Tommen, or the Tyrek/Ermesande match, are rather uncommon and only happen when there is a good reason. In the case of Tommen and Margaery, the crown needed to secure the Tyrells' loyalty to win the war, otherwise there was no need for Tommen to marry that young. In a feudal society like Westeros it just doesn't make much sense to marry before both partners are biologically capable of having a child. The entire point of the Westerosi obsession with virginity is that the husband can be certain that the child will definitely be his. If a husband can't consummate the marriage for several years because he is not sexually mature yet, how can he be sure his much older wife is not going to take a lover on the side in the meantime? (Exactly what Cersei tries to pin on Marg to get rid of her, btw.) Therefore the norm is to marry a virgin and get her pregnant ASAP so there can be no doubt about the paternity of the child. In this sense, Cersei would not have been a great pick for Viserys compared to someone closer to his own age. Waiting until Cersei was in her early 20s for her to get married would have been an uncommon practice, if we look at how early highborn girls in the series are married (Margaery is about 16, Catelyn, Lysa and Cersei around 18-19, Sansa and Danaerys 13; only the Dornish seem to be an exception. Although one could argue that all these marriages have some political purpose to it, so the wife's age is probably a minor factor.)
  12. Maybe he was hoping Rhaegar would set Elia aside in favour of Cersei, because she couldn't give him another child, or hoped Elia would die of some sickness. Waiting for Viserys to come of age would have taken too long I think. He is 10 years younger than Cersei, so when he's 16 she would already be 26… Willas might have been the best option, as the age gap is somewhat smaller (though we don't know his exact birth year I think).
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    The Long Night Gets its own Show!

    They ordered a pilot; that doesn't necessarily mean there will be a series…
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    Cersei's thoughts about Joffrey's betrothal to Sansa

    We don't know if she was thinking about it, because we didn't have her POV. We also don't know at what point GRRM came up with this prophecy. I'm not 100% sure of the timeline, but I think she really starts obsessing over it after Joffrey's death because she sees it as the first part of the prophecy coming true, and believes that Tyrion did it and will murder her too. It's definitely possible that she severely underestimated Sansa (understandably, I think) and disregarded her as a possible candidate for the YMBQ.
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    Cersei's thoughts about Joffrey's betrothal to Sansa

    Joff and Sansa were allowed riding off on their own because it was necessary for the whole scene with Arya, and Lady's resulting death, to happen. Sure George could have come up with some better excuse why they were on their own but when he wrote that book he didn't expect people to dissect every single word and look for hidden plots everywhere. Even though he is a careful writer, he has to bend the rules of his universe every now and then. Also see the hand's tourney where Sansa and Joff were again without much supervision, if I recall correctly...
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