Alia Atreides

and I don't get your lecture at all. You started off suggesting Tori Morrion's Beloved which has not a thing to do with the slavery existing within Essos, etc. if it is pray tell me explain why people wanted to be slaves again? Again a different Caste system of slavery existed not a bunch of slave masters being cruel and beating people within an inch of their lives. I know how unfortunate today's life as a slave is and what slavery meant for a person of color and that is the last thing I am saying on this its not even the topic of discussion. You want to discuss the life of a Slave through History and how it has evolved and changed from past to current meanings lets do it in proper topic thread. Thank you.

Thanks but I already know that but within the books we are not speaking of slavery on those terms etc.

Exactly; every time the Greek's or Roman's invaded another land said subjects of the land became slaves. Slavery was not always based upon the color of skin or slave masters or cruelty or being beaten within an inch of your life.

No it was a goat definitely; you saw the horns and ribcage.

He gave a beautiful performance Alfie Allen he is really on the mark... I'm gonna miss Oberyn :)

Alfie Allen is doing an amazing simply amazing job with Theon, Peter Dinklage gave one of his best performances. Ramsay the Bastard Snow creeps me out even more at one point I thought he was gonna ask Theon for a kiss..... The are shifting so so MUCH between the books nows I'm afraid for Seasons 5 & 6... GRMM has to finish and I should like a broken record ;) and Jamie I love him even more ..

Did the women even know of them? From what I saw they put them separate?

I did make a post just above regarding a lot of this already :) . I agree finally to an extent I still don't like :P sorry :). I love your detailed analysis instead of saying everyone is wrong ;)

I agree, I am also since reading a lot of different viewer's comments here that Cersei wasn't being "nice" for nicety sake; etc. But I will still stick by my own view that Pragmatism, Cunning, and Forethought were never her strong suits EVER. She has always let her emotions rule her judgement and to see this play out is strange not fitting with her character not only in the Books but here on the show as well as you just pointed out. I will say this Lena Headey is doing a really wonderful job in adding so much complexity to Cersei as she really is much more one-dimensional in the books, I am interested to when we get to the point of her meltdown.

perhaps, she always seem predictable to me is all, yes people lose it all the time and some never had it at all.

LOL yes in the books that door was hell itself...

for the exactly that point she doesn't know Subtlety if she was shown the definition of it; within the books it is her greatest weakness, I'm sorry I am not going to back down from that gripe; I pretty much support the show and the writers as yes they have read all the books, etc I'm just disappointed in how they are playing it out is all. :)

it also made me wish someone would push Sweetrobin out the Moon Door :)