oliverhate Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 i think that this phrase has more importance then it would seem and when jon "dies" no doubt a few watchmen would of said it so this could mean is he's resurrected by mel he won't be bound by his vows anymore. or you know it could just be a tradition that doesn't mean anythingalso this is my first post so try not to hate to much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanyTheSaltWife Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I begining to hope Jon is dead just to show people the world does not revolve around him...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the smiling tree Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 everyone is watching the show right now, and posting about it. be patient, you will get responses, and welcome to the forum! there are a lot of theories out there about jon's "death", resurrection, second life, whatever. one of them is that this phrase is what will release him from the night's watch so he can fight for winter, be lord of winterfell, sit on the iron throne, etc. i personally think that even though he will be relieved of his duty, he will choose to stay and fight the ww, or find out what they want, who they are, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterJack Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 There is no way Jon will use this excuse. The watch is for life, does he live? Yes? NW forever, or until the prganisation itself cease to exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Thorrand Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 The only way I see him getting out of the NW is if there is no more need for the organization. Such as there being no more wall, which for the others to be an actual threat to the seven kingdoms there can't be an impassable barrier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Blizzardborn Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I begining to hope Jon is dead just to show people the world does not revolve around him...... We know the world doesn't revolve around him but so far no POV character has died in their own POV. Odds are he's not dead...yet. I have to agree that most likely as long as there's a Night's Watch, he'll be in it. I can foresee the NW becoming obsolete and being disbanded though, and then he would be free. The only way I could see him not honoring the vows would be if he becomes the next Night's King. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilúvatar Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 While I agree that his watch has technically ended, I think it will ultimately be the destruction of the Wall and the NW ceasing to exist that really separates him from that life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliverhate Posted April 21, 2014 Author Share Posted April 21, 2014 I begining to hope Jon is dead just to show people the world does not revolve around him...... yeah, I'm kinda split on the matter i never really liked jon as much as everyone else maybe in my top 20 characters but i don't really want to have to get used to another POV character at the wall sure theres mel but she's not really about the NW she just cares about stannis and stuff. id be happy with benjen though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Bastard Snow Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 i think that this phrase has more importance then it would seem and when jon "dies" no doubt a few watchmen would of said it so this could mean is he's resurrected by mel he won't be bound by his vows anymore. or you know it could just be a tradition that doesn't mean anything also this is my first post so try not to hate to much Jon is not bound by his oath.He is bound by his loyalty and his honor.Jon knows there is no one in the watch who can be the leader that is needed besides him they are all shortsighted fools.Jon will stay until he knows the wall/watch will survive without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanyTheSaltWife Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 We know the world doesn't revolve around him but so far no POV character has died in their own POV. Odds are he's not dead...yet. I have to agree that most likely as long as there's a Night's Watch, he'll be in it. I can foresee the NW becoming obsolete and being disbanded though, and then he would be free. The only way I could see him not honoring the vows would be if he becomes the next Night's King. Quentyn and every prolog character whould disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterJack Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Quentyn and every prolog character whould disagree Quentyn died some day later and Cat is half-alive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Thorrand Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Quentyn and every prolog character whould disagree Quentyn lived for three more weeks. Prologue characters are always killed in their prologues, part of the process. They aren't a part of the series POV's. The logical culprit would be Catelyn Stark, but her being LS I think is the loophole in that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firiel Hiren Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 OK but what if Jon dies and is not immediately resurrected? He has a dream where he wakes and everything has changed. What if he wakes up and everyone is gone? Empty Wall or no Wall? What if he wakes up and the watch has elected some dirt bag as the new LC?I think he would feel his duty was to find out what happened at Winterfell in either of these two cases because he was on his way already... despite being LC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kinkslayer Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Quentyn and every prolog character whould disagree Technically Quentyn died in Barristan's PoV. The only time I thought a PoV was about to die in ADWD was when Tyrion almost fights lions while riding pretty pig, as that happen in a Dany chapter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Thorrand Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 OK but what if Jon dies and is not immediately resurrected?He has a dream where he wakes and everything has changed. What if he wakes up and everyone is gone? Empty Wall or no Wall?What if he wakes up and the watch has elected some dirt bag as the new LC?I think he would feel his duty was to find out what happened at Winterfell in either of these two cases because he was on his way already... despite being LC. If the wall is gone, I see the remaining NW to disband. His death in my eyes absolves him of the LC position. I can't see what the purpose of a Nights Watch would be once the wall is down, at that point it's the realms problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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