If Daemon Blackfyre won the battle of Redgrass field?

[Arthur Lannister]

If Daemon Blackfyre won the battle of Redgrass field and successfully took the Iron Throne from Daeron II and his line, would the realm accept Daemon's reign or would the reign of House Blackfyre would immediately end after his death? In this scenario, we could assume that Daeron was killed by Daeron, Bittersteel killed Bloodraven and Daeron's family fled to the east.

[Gurkhal]

If Daemon Blackfyre won the battle of Redgrass field and successfully took the Iron Throne from Daeron II and his line, would the realm accept Daemon's reign or would the reign of House Blackfyre would immediately end after his death? In this scenario, we could assume that Daeron was killed by Daeron, Bittersteel killed Bloodraven and Daeron's family fled to the east.

I belive that the realm would have little choice. Blackfyre has his army, a shitload of supporters and the capital while the Targaryens have little themselves. If the Targaryens managed to escape east I belive that there will be rebellions to attempt to put these back on the throne similar to the Blackfyre rebellions.

[Bright Blue Eyes]

Yes. Everything would just be mirrorred. The only problem would have been a possible rebellion by Dorne.

[Gurkhal]

Yes. Everything would just be mirrorred. The only problem would have been a possible rebellion by Dorne.

Well Blackfyre would have Yronwood, at the least, so even though Dorne rebels it might not go as smooth for them as it did in the past against the Targaryens.

[BobBob]

Dorne would rebel but the Yronwood's would most likely side with the Blackfyre's and become the new ruling house of Dorne, or Daemon would just outright destroy them instead of trying to conquer them.

[Arthur Lannister]

If the Martell vs Yronwood would be repeated in Dorne, then it could be possible that Lannister vs Reyne would be repeated unless the Lannisters bend the knee. It could also be possible that the Arryns might do what Lord Gormon Peake do to Daemon II.

[Arya kiddin']

A scenario where the side supported by BAMF Bloodraven loses is highly unlikely though. I mean it's Bloodraven.....

[Hempen Dan the Ropemaker]

Daemon would have been a good ruler, and after such a big war most houses would have been forces to bend the knee. This is similar to how things would played out with Robert. Win the war win the throne; but how do you manage a succession? Daemon had like seven sons and there still would be other main branch targs floating around potentially.

Also, daemons eldest sons were twins, so who inherits? Do we know which redwyne twin is the heir in the main books?

[Draco_Dracul]

Daemon would have been a good ruler, and after such a big war most houses would have been forces to bend the knee. This is similar to how things would played out with Robert. Win the war win the throne; but how do you manage a succession? Daemon had like seven sons and there still would be other main branch targs floating around potentially.

Also, daemons eldest sons were twins, so who inherits? Do we know which redwyne twin is the heir in the main books?

He could force one of his twin sons into the King's Guard, the Maesters, or the Night's Watch if it came down to it.

[noSer]

Firstborn is firstborn twins or not. This is confirmed in SoS when Tyrion is in jail and thinks how by Dornish law Cersei inherits the Rock.

[Gurkhal]

If the Martell vs Yronwood would be repeated in Dorne, then it could be possible that Lannister vs Reyne would be repeated unless the Lannisters bend the knee. It could also be possible that the Arryns might do what Lord Gormon Peake do to Daemon II.

Well if the Yronwoods rebel they can most likely count on support from the Iron Throne. So they just need to hang on and wait for the cavalry to arrive.

[CosimaistheHottest]

The Yronwoods are idiots, IMO. It is highly possible that once the Yronwoods helped him win the throne. They still would not be the rulers of Dorne. They are relying on a man trying to oust their own people from positions of power. It could easily be after everything is done, Daemon refuses to use his own men to help the dornish snakes. So Yronwood has just turned traitor to their people and they have lost the hard won semblance of peace and a half-Dornishman on the Iron Throne. The rest of Dorne could potentially try to destroy House Yronwood and Daemon refuses to help because he can't be bothered with the snakes.

[Gurkhal]

The Yronwoods are idiots, IMO. It is highly possible that once the Yronwoods helped him win the throne. They still would not be the rulers of Dorne. They are relying on a man trying to oust their own people from positions of power. It could easily be after everything is done, Daemon refuses to use his own men to help the dornish snakes. So Yronwood has just turned traitor to their people and they have lost the hard won semblance of peace and a half-Dornishman on the Iron Throne. The rest of Dorne could potentially try to destroy House Yronwood and Daemon refuses to help because he can't be bothered with the snakes.

But this is Daemon Blackfyre and I don't think that he would do something like this. If he'd won he'd be all over Westeros helping his allies and friends.

[Lord Egeman]

I cannot give a definite answer to the politics aspect, but there would be No greenseers if Bloodraven dies. Welcome Long Night 2.0

[CosimaistheHottest]

But this is Daemon Blackfyre and I don't think that he would do something like this. If he'd won he'd be all over Westeros helping his allies and friends.

Thats what you think doesnt really mean its true. Daemon seemed to have many allies telling him what to do. Most of them probably had a very blatant prejudice against the Dornish. I can't see them helping them out especially if there is a chance they will lose a lot of man. What happens if the Martells decide to bend the knee instead of rebelling against Daemon Blackfyres rule? It is more than likely Yronwood would still end up with nothing. Or if Blackfyre helped the Yronwoods take over Dorne. What is to stop him from helping the Bolton's against Starks, Reynes against Lannisters, Florents against Tyrells etc, etc.

[Bright Blue Eyes]

Thats what you think doesnt really mean its true. Daemon seemed to have many allies telling him what to do. Most of them probably had a very blatant prejudice against the Dornish. I can't see them helping them out especially if there is a chance they will lose a lot of man. What happens if the Martells decide to bend the knee instead of rebelling against Daemon Blackfyres rule? It is more than likely Yronwood would still end up with nothing. Or if Blackfyre helped the Yronwoods take over Dorne. What is to stop him from helping the Bolton's against Starks, Reynes against Lannisters, Florents against Tyrells etc, etc.

Against the Rhoynish culture in Dorne to be exact. But the Bloodroyal are the paragons of Andal culture in Dorne, closer to the Seven Kingdoms than to Sunspear.

[danm_999]

Daemon winning the Redgrass Field seems pretty disastrous an outcome to me to the war as;

• It permanently opens a rift in the primogeniture succession in Westeros. Now second born sons and bastards have a strong legal precedent to challenge their elder siblings by arguing their fathers liked them more, or gave them something that represented they were supposed to be heir. Chaos.
  
• Most of Dorne rebels, save the Yronwoods, probably leaves the Seven Kingdoms. The Yronwoods hold the Boneway, which is only really effective at keeping people out of Dorne, but they'd be fighting opponents inside Dorne. And considering the difficulty the Targaryens had keeping Dorne when they had dragons, the split is probably going to be rather permanent even if Daemon helps.
  
• Bloodraven very likely dies in the battle. No last greenseer, no Bran opening his third eye, no direwolf cubs, no Mormont's raven telling Jon to burn the wight, no one to help oppose the Others supernaturally. Chaos, chaos, chaos.
  
• A very, very good King (Daeron) is exchanged for a king we know very little about, but can only speculate.
  
• Men like John the Fiddler (the Brown Dragon), and Aegon and Aemon Blackfyre (described by Cockshaw as wretched and witless bullies) are the future of the dynasty, rather than men like Breakspear, Maester Aemon, Egg and Jaehaerys I (on the bright side, no Aerion Brightflame).
  

So yeah, on balance, it seems like this would be for the worse. Basically, old King Daeron was as good a King as the realm had ever seen, and trading to Daemon, who we know precious little about, seems very dangerous. The best warriors, the most charismatic men, the ones who started off handsome and gregarious, tended to turn fat and lazy when on the Iron Throne, and make for the worst Kings in Westeros history (Robert, Aegon the Unworthy) whereas the best Kings tended to be men in Daeron's mold (Jaehaerys I, Jaehaerys II).

[CosimaistheHottest]

Against the Rhoynish culture in Dorne to be exact. But the Bloodroyal are the paragons of Andal culture in Dorne, closer to the Seven Kingdoms than to Sunspear.

At first Yronwoods were very Andalish, its been a thousand years. They have become very much Dornish to the point that they even take Dornish succession. They also probably have a lot of Rhoynish blood from the marrying in.

[Beorn Snow]

Wars in Dorne Yronwoods vs. rest, wars in the westerlands: Reynes vs. Lannisters, and who knows what in the future. Laws of succession have been broken and a dangerous precedent been set.

[PrimeRhaegar]

i do wonder if he would have kept the blackfyre name or change it to targaryen