RustPromoter Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 Am I alone in absolutely loving Gregor “The Mountain†Clegane? I just think the extreme monstrousness of the character is somewhat awe-inspiring. The fact that Martin has crafted such a brutal, terrifying character, whose sole purpose in life seems to be absolute destruction and murder, just seems very modern to me. The way other characters refer to him in awed, almost mythical tones reminds me of The Judge from Cormac McCarthy’s Blood Meridian novel, or even Anton Shigurh from No Country for Old Men. We hear about the atrocities he commits like he is some kind of unstoppable force of violence, almost as though his actions are like a cataclysmic natural disaster. What do you guys think, any fans of The Mountain out there besides me? Let’s show this big teddy bear the love he deserves. I mean, come on, he raped a woman with baby-brains still on his hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan_Sasse Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 Eh...yes. Fascinating character, no doubt, but adoring him for what he's done seems kinda strange to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drogo Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 I think he is a unique character of any novel I have read since he could only exist in that the westrosi society. Even in medeval europe he would of been put down as an animal since thats what he really is, an animal made human which allows for that fascinating aspect of his character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustPromoter Posted July 9, 2008 Author Share Posted July 9, 2008 Yes, he's very much a man of his times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Watchman Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 I don't 'admire' him as such, but rather am awed by his sheer brutality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustPromoter Posted July 9, 2008 Author Share Posted July 9, 2008 Yes, I suppose I don't actually advocate smashing the heads of babies into walls, or rape, but it takes balls to create a character like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redxavier Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 I love to hate him... and I do so loathe him. No death is too horrible for this bastard. I want him to be resurrected just so that he can be killed again. I'm not so sure that he would have been put down in a real Medieval setting, given his usefulness to whoever's holding his reins. Speaking of which, what I find personally fascinating about Gregor is that he can be controlled at all. Varys riddle about the sellsword comes to mind; how and why did Gregor swear allegiance to the Lannisters? Given his appalling track with honour, why does he 'honour' the concepts of duty and loyalty inherited from his father? I am curious also about what a man liked Gregor gets up to in peacetime. It's been a long time since Greyjoy's rebellion, so what's he been doing with himself in that time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustPromoter Posted July 9, 2008 Author Share Posted July 9, 2008 I wonder that, too. Maybe he writes poetry and we'll get to see a published anthology sometime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sToNED_CAT Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 [quote name='redxavier' post='1433300' date='Jul 9 2008, 11.29']I am curious also about what a man liked Gregor gets up to in peacetime. It's been a long time since Greyjoy's rebellion, so what's he been doing with himself in that time?[/quote] He's having fun with his wives and servants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 [quote name='anguy' post='1433436' date='Jul 9 2008, 13.42']He's having fun with his wives and servants.[/quote] More specifically, having fun torturing/killing them. That goes for the dogs too. Plus there's been some tourneys and whatnot. But, agreed, what does he do with his time? Go out and kill random smallfolk? Personally, I think he does a little sellsword work for the Free Cities on the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burr Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 [quote name='Drogo' post='1433164' date='Jul 9 2008, 08.06']Even in medeval europe he would of been put down as an animal[/quote] you don't need me to drag out all the times in history when this very sort of person has been lauded and rewarded, do you? It's not "normal," but it is also not unheard of. Rape and murder and general brutatlity are human hallmarks. Clegane is just the biggest brute on the block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustPromoter Posted July 9, 2008 Author Share Posted July 9, 2008 [quote name='Burr' post='1433604' date='Jul 9 2008, 15.12']you don't need me to drag out all the times in history when this very sort of person has been lauded and rewarded, do you? It's not "normal," but it is also not unheard of. Rape and murder and general brutatlity are human hallmarks. Clegane is just the biggest brute on the block.[/quote] Yeah, just look at some of the Roman Emperors. At least Gregor doesn't eat fetuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neurosis Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 I tell my male friends, of the ultra-masculine type (which most of my close friends are), of Gregor Clegane when I'm trying to convince them this is hard, gritty, alt history type story-telling, not ridiculous fantasy bullshit. Particularly the story of the inn. I don't find the character especially hard to believe, even when he's such a straw-man consisting of not straw but pure evil, whom we are meant to hate. But he is not unstoppable. Jaime believes he could have beaten him, and Sandor at least thinks he could give him a fair fight. Oberyn nearly killed him. In fact, I'd like to see him tortured before he was killed. He deserves it. A great character. Though your crush will have to remain your own. I ain't turning prison gay for big old G C. I'd rather sell myself to Sandor for a pack of ciggies and have him protect me. Edit: the eating foetuses thing might have been a dramatisation. Robert Graves was not always entirely accurate... Though it made for the second best TV series I've ever seen (behind Carnivale). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HP Loveshaft Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 Good thread. Gregor is a funny guy, and deserves some props. That innkeeper story was great...that guy really should have picked up on the whole "Don't Bug Gregor" vibe. The Lannisters are so much fun. I have no idea why anyone would cheer on the boring Starks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_yeti Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 As far as Gregors downtime hobbies go, he probably enjoys quiet walks on the beach and skipping through fields of flowers. At home he picks up his harp and writes love songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xalinor Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 ...All of that while he ruthlessly rapes and murders several anonymous peasants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackwater Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 Gregor gives me creeps, but I named my cat Gregor in hope he will grow big and all the other cats will fear him.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince of the North Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 [quote name='Burr' post='1433604' date='Jul 9 2008, 14.12']you don't need me to drag out all the times in history when this very sort of person has been lauded and rewarded, do you? It's not "normal," but it is also not unheard of. Rape and murder and general brutatlity are human hallmarks. Clegane is just the biggest brute on the block.[/quote] :agree: Even Martin hasn't topped some things that we [i]have some evidence[/i] happened in our own sordid history. Just off the top of my head here are a couple of quick examples from the Vikings. Is everyone familiar with the "Blood Eagle" that some Vikings were so fond of performing? Does everyone know where the Scandanavian toast "Skoal" comes from (hint: it's not from spit tobacco ;) )? Oh, the list goes on and on... :sick: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xalinor Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 The fact that Martin is willing to write about such a realistic world makes him such a great author... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogbebaba Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 [quote name='Prince of the North' post='1435470' date='Jul 10 2008, 14.52']:agree: Even Martin hasn't topped some things that we [i]have some evidence[/i] happened in our own sordid history. Just off the top of my head here are a couple of quick examples from the Vikings. Is everyone familiar with the "Blood Eagle" that some Vikings were so fond of performing? Does everyone know where the Scandanavian toast "Skoal" comes from (hint: it's not from spit tobacco ;) )? Oh, the list goes on and on... :sick:[/quote] ok what is the blood eagle and the toast skoal ? I would like a detailed description please... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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