Knight of Ashes

For a while there in Season 1, I thought they were writing a somewhat smarter version of Joffrey. His line there in an ep of Season 2 , "We're at war, nobody's safe" seem to bear this out and I thought he suspected who his true father is 'cause of the expression on his face when Tyrion, in the heat of the moment, told him he owed "you're Uncle Jaime" a lot. Oh well.....

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There are times when Stannis looks like Alaister Sim playing Scrooge.

Nvm

Never mind.

non-book readers

Err, I meant viewers who haven't red the books.

I'm glad someone agrees. I've taken most of the changes in stride. You know, as long as it leads to the same end. It's kept things fresh for those of us familiar with the story and while I don't always agree with the changes, they still work. But this one has me flustered. Jaime's my favorite character after all! I cannot imagine him actually doing this. Yeah, he's done some horrible stuff. I'll never deny that. But this specifically felt entirely out of character for him. He just... isn't all scheming like that.

After reading book three and four, I kind of started viewing book two, in regards to Jaime, as kind of a cooling off period. You hate him so much in the first book, but then you barely see him in the second, and in the one scene he's in, he doesn't really do anything besides mock Cat (which is kind of funny) and relate a story that makes his killing of Aerys more understandable. I'm not saying that this is what makes him likable, but all the time away from him helps to cool the anger one feels towards him. Now it's just been rekindled all over again! I was already worried that his redemption might not get across so well on television as it did in the books. Now I'm more concerned than ever. I immediately told my brother who was watching the show with me that Jaime did NOT do that in the books. My parents who have also read them were also annoyed.

Yeah, I haven't minded a lot of the changes they've made but it's quite different if it's one's favorite character. They seem to be going in the opposite direction with Jaime (more villainous) and Cersei (more sympathetic). I shall adjust to it if I must 'cause I enjoy some of the reinterpretations. Though, non-book readers are missing out on Ultra-cold Tywin, whispery Roose etc. but at least they're spared bat-shit crazy Cersei.

TV Shae reminds me of Celine Dion.

If there is one constant in the books it is that no one is perfect.

I thought it was "Winter is Coming." :)

Every time I see Arya on season 2, I can't help but think "Wow. Yoren would make a good hairstylist."

Even though I know how strapped they are time wise, I really wanted to see that fake interaction go on a little bit longer :( I thought that was one of the funniest things in the books.

Yeah, they didn't capture the humor between Theon and Asha's, um, reunion in the books, which is MAYBE why some found the TV version of the scenes icky.

I think they left the option of Shireen open on purpose. They can introduce her down the line if they decide she is too important to leave out.

I sure hope so; it's bad enough they left out Theon getting excited over the thought of "Esgred" lactating.

Back to Shireen- she provided the first time we heard about grayscale, which will become significant down the road, so maybe she'll show up at some point.

Someone may have mentioned this, but, no Damphair?

No Wex either (Whom I've always thought of as Porky Pig to Theon's Daffy Duck).

1.: It is made implicitly clear, at some point later on Tyrion refers to it as "Cersei´s savage course"

Not that I feel all that strongly as to who ordered what, but Tyrion also thought that Cersei ordered Ser who'snameIkeepforgetting to kill him, but yeah, I believed (and still do) that Book Cersei ordered the killings. I don't think Book Joff would do so since he's so fucking clueless, he probably doesn't know how babies are made.

Same feelings here. I just don't get the sense of 'iron' from TV Stannis. He's not physically impressive, particularly compared to the actor portraying Davos.

When I first saw TV Stannis, the first thought that came to my mind was that he looked like a young Alastair Sims portraying Scrooge.

Yeah TV Joffrey is older and somewhat less naive than book Joffrey and it does come of as believable. I don't have a problem with that change, I also liked how they made us wonder who was behind it, until of course it was revealed

I'm quite grateful for some of the changes; I could do without two exact versions of Cersei and Joffrey running around.

PS What the hell are warning points and why don't I have any of them?

Book Joffrey would never do that. It would be like Joffrey admitting to himself that he isn't Robert's son, or is there any other reason to order the killing of Robert's bastards?

I think TV Joffrey may suspect, deep down, that he's not Robert's son. This version is at least, a bit smarter.